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HPTA Restart after Varicocele Surgery?
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<blockquote data-quote="lenny" data-source="post: 101823" data-attributes="member: 14892"><p>Wow, those are really good numbers. That sucks that you're having trouble with the side effects. I'm intrigued by the daily HCG protocol, though. Was that your doctor's recommendation? Never seen that prescribed before. </p><p></p><p>For your side effects though, certainly with the acne and possibly the sleep problems… it might be because your total T is a bit too high for you. You didn't mention it, so I take it you're not on an AI (aromatase inhibitor)? Weak orgasms is a curious problem to have with those numbers, so I feel your frustration. Your e2 is not particularly high, and your free T isn't bad.</p><p></p><p>I'm the same age as you, and also wound up with low T because of huge bilateral varicoceles, but didn't start TRT until about six months after the surgery. My pre-surgery total T was 308 ng/dL, and several months after surgery it had climbed up to 328. So not much of an improvement. Maybe if I'd been more patient, there might have been more long-term improvement, but probably not much. </p><p></p><p>That was five years ago now, and my doc is still encouraging me to take a month off T and do a restart protocol with high doses of HCG and clomid, just to get my sperm production back in full swing for awhile. I've been nervous to do that, since I'm pretty sure I'll feel like crap the whole time. But I'll probably take the plunge later this year… it's only for a month, after all. </p><p></p><p>Anyway, for you I would say screw it, it's worth a shot. Why not? Like you say, you can always go back on T if you don't like the results. I'm not sure what the odds are for a full HPTA restart after ten months of TRT, but I'm pretty sure it's been done. Just keep in mind that the chances of you ever getting back to where you were before the varicoceles did their damage are pretty much zero.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lenny, post: 101823, member: 14892"] Wow, those are really good numbers. That sucks that you're having trouble with the side effects. I'm intrigued by the daily HCG protocol, though. Was that your doctor's recommendation? Never seen that prescribed before. For your side effects though, certainly with the acne and possibly the sleep problems… it might be because your total T is a bit too high for you. You didn't mention it, so I take it you're not on an AI (aromatase inhibitor)? Weak orgasms is a curious problem to have with those numbers, so I feel your frustration. Your e2 is not particularly high, and your free T isn't bad. I'm the same age as you, and also wound up with low T because of huge bilateral varicoceles, but didn't start TRT until about six months after the surgery. My pre-surgery total T was 308 ng/dL, and several months after surgery it had climbed up to 328. So not much of an improvement. Maybe if I'd been more patient, there might have been more long-term improvement, but probably not much. That was five years ago now, and my doc is still encouraging me to take a month off T and do a restart protocol with high doses of HCG and clomid, just to get my sperm production back in full swing for awhile. I've been nervous to do that, since I'm pretty sure I'll feel like crap the whole time. But I'll probably take the plunge later this year… it's only for a month, after all. Anyway, for you I would say screw it, it's worth a shot. Why not? Like you say, you can always go back on T if you don't like the results. I'm not sure what the odds are for a full HPTA restart after ten months of TRT, but I'm pretty sure it's been done. Just keep in mind that the chances of you ever getting back to where you were before the varicoceles did their damage are pretty much zero. [/QUOTE]
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