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<blockquote data-quote="madman" data-source="post: 147014" data-attributes="member: 13851"><p><strong>"I understand some people do well on trt but <span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">to think that replacing one hormone </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">in such an intricate system is the</span><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)"> holy grail</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"> is just </span><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">Ignorant</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">"</span></strong></p><p></p><p>- if anything the only ones thinking such would be the misinformed</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>"We also have to understand how many people on these forums will <span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">convince them self’s they are better</span> because of the <span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">asthetic aspect of trt.</span> Shit men will put there lives at risk with roids and gh and insulin just to look good. Sometimes with <span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">a lot of men trt is no different</span></strong><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"><strong>"</strong></span></p><p></p><p>- your out to left field on this one.....sure when on trt having <strong><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">healthy T levels </span></strong>along with following a <strong><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">proper diet/training</span></strong> protocol would have a positive impact on <strong><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">minor</span></strong> body composition changes (muscle gain/fat loss) along with increased strength/recovery but it is in no way comparable to one using steroid doses of testosterone/AAS which would result in significant changes in body composition (muscle gain/fat loss) along with increased strength/recovery</p><p></p><p>- comparing the aesthetic aspect of trt to using steroids for muscle gain is like night and day </p><p></p><p>- you should be well aware that when using replacement doses of testosterone for trt as long as TT/FT levels are kept in a healthy range whether mid-normal, high-normal or slightly above the top end of the physiological range and blood markers are good there would be no detrimental health effects let alone putting ones self at risk</p><p></p><p>-is there a chance of side effects whether cosmetic or health related when using testosterone in therapeutic doses.....of course but if anything they are usually minimal and can be controlled or eliminated whether they are the result of excess e2/dht, increased hemoglobin/hematocrit, testicular shrinkage, lowered fertility, negative effect on lipids mainly lowered HDL</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>"I’m getting <span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">sick of hearing the bs</span> about <span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">returning to youthful levels.</span> No one is made to be<span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)"> training 6 days a week 1-2 hours a day let alone at 60 years old.</span> And we still <span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">call that trt like it’s not pretty much low dose roid use</span></strong><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"><strong>"</strong></span></p><p></p><p>- who said men on trt are training 6 days a week (1-2 hrs/day) and even than depending on training protocol/intensity and how much the training was split between cardiovascular/strength training it could easily be done.</p><p></p><p>- what is wrong with a 60 year old attaining healthy levels of testosterone (levels of a healthy young male) through the use of trt to improve the quality of his overall health if he previously suffered from t-deficiency?</p><p></p><p>- think you are confused regarding trt as it is in no way no how low dose steroid use.</p><p></p><p>-most on trt are using 100-150 mg/week, some even less and others on the slightly higher end 200 mg (not low dose steroids)</p><p></p><p>-sure are there men on trt pushing the boundaries of replacement doses using 250+ mg/week or blasting/cruising.....most definitely but do not get mixed up as many on trt are simply using replacement doses of T in order to achieve a healthy TT/FT to experience relief/improvement of low t symptoms and improve overall well being</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>But at the end of the day is <span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">risk vs reward</span> and if you feel better on trt and are happy I respect that. But guys doing well on trt need to start <span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">respecting people that do not do well. </span>And stop speaking down to them with all the hypochondriac talk and it’s in your head</strong></p><p></p><p>- again there is no risk vs reward when on trt if testosterone levels are kept within a healthy range along with other hormones and blood markers are good.....we are not abusing testosterone/AAS (steroids) here</p><p></p><p>- these people you are referring to that are being disrespectful is only a handful on the forum and you have every right to be upset on this one as they are not in the other persons (struggling on trt/feel worse) shoes</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What I do agree with is trt is not for everyone and some will always struggle regardless of having the so called perfect protocol as there is so much more than simply just having healthy testosterone levels.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="madman, post: 147014, member: 13851"] [B]"I understand some people do well on trt but [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]to think that replacing one hormone [/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]in such an intricate system is the[/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)] holy grail[/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)] is just [/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]Ignorant[/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]"[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)][/COLOR] - if anything the only ones thinking such would be the misinformed [B]"We also have to understand how many people on these forums will [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]convince them self’s they are better[/COLOR] because of the [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]asthetic aspect of trt.[/COLOR] Shit men will put there lives at risk with roids and gh and insulin just to look good. Sometimes with [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]a lot of men trt is no different[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)][B]"[/B][/COLOR] - your out to left field on this one.....sure when on trt having [B][COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]healthy T levels [/COLOR][/B]along with following a [B][COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]proper diet/training[/COLOR][/B] protocol would have a positive impact on [B][COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]minor[/COLOR][/B] body composition changes (muscle gain/fat loss) along with increased strength/recovery but it is in no way comparable to one using steroid doses of testosterone/AAS which would result in significant changes in body composition (muscle gain/fat loss) along with increased strength/recovery - comparing the aesthetic aspect of trt to using steroids for muscle gain is like night and day - you should be well aware that when using replacement doses of testosterone for trt as long as TT/FT levels are kept in a healthy range whether mid-normal, high-normal or slightly above the top end of the physiological range and blood markers are good there would be no detrimental health effects let alone putting ones self at risk -is there a chance of side effects whether cosmetic or health related when using testosterone in therapeutic doses.....of course but if anything they are usually minimal and can be controlled or eliminated whether they are the result of excess e2/dht, increased hemoglobin/hematocrit, testicular shrinkage, lowered fertility, negative effect on lipids mainly lowered HDL [B]"I’m getting [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]sick of hearing the bs[/COLOR] about [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]returning to youthful levels.[/COLOR] No one is made to be[COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)] training 6 days a week 1-2 hours a day let alone at 60 years old.[/COLOR] And we still [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]call that trt like it’s not pretty much low dose roid use[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)][B]"[/B][/COLOR] - who said men on trt are training 6 days a week (1-2 hrs/day) and even than depending on training protocol/intensity and how much the training was split between cardiovascular/strength training it could easily be done. - what is wrong with a 60 year old attaining healthy levels of testosterone (levels of a healthy young male) through the use of trt to improve the quality of his overall health if he previously suffered from t-deficiency? - think you are confused regarding trt as it is in no way no how low dose steroid use. -most on trt are using 100-150 mg/week, some even less and others on the slightly higher end 200 mg (not low dose steroids) -sure are there men on trt pushing the boundaries of replacement doses using 250+ mg/week or blasting/cruising.....most definitely but do not get mixed up as many on trt are simply using replacement doses of T in order to achieve a healthy TT/FT to experience relief/improvement of low t symptoms and improve overall well being [B]But at the end of the day is [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]risk vs reward[/COLOR] and if you feel better on trt and are happy I respect that. But guys doing well on trt need to start [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]respecting people that do not do well. [/COLOR]And stop speaking down to them with all the hypochondriac talk and it’s in your head[/B] - again there is no risk vs reward when on trt if testosterone levels are kept within a healthy range along with other hormones and blood markers are good.....we are not abusing testosterone/AAS (steroids) here - these people you are referring to that are being disrespectful is only a handful on the forum and you have every right to be upset on this one as they are not in the other persons (struggling on trt/feel worse) shoes What I do agree with is trt is not for everyone and some will always struggle regardless of having the so called perfect protocol as there is so much more than simply just having healthy testosterone levels. [/QUOTE]
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