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Thanks for all the information. I have been suffering from visceral fat now since the late '90s and really need to lose alot of it. I am on metformin but am not diabetic. My consultant only put me on it to see if it helped with fat loss. To date it hasn't really. I have now purchased all of the supliments you mentioned but before I start any of them can you please explain exactly what is 'modified Atkins diet'? I could not see any difference on the atkins links that would suggest it is modified in any way. I am quite happy to cut out most of the bad carbs and hidden sugars in my diet. Thank you!