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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Blood Test Discussion
How lowering Test dosage increase my TT, Low SHBG guys this is for you, the less is the better!
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<blockquote data-quote="madman" data-source="post: 103666" data-attributes="member: 13851"><p>Sure when one is on trt there will be positive changes in body composition (increase muscle tissue -actin/myosin, intra- cellular water due to increased glycogen storage) and of course extra-cellular water due to water retention from elevated e2 (unless on is using an aromatase inhibitor).</p><p></p><p>The body composition changes on trt whether one has mid-normal physiological levels (total t/free t) or high-normal physiological levels (total t/free t) or even slightly above the top end of the physiological range will be nowhere comparable to one using steroid doses to attain supra-physiological levels.</p><p></p><p>On average most on trt are using anywhere from 100-150 mg/week of testosterone whether injected once weekly or split up into more frequent injections as every 3.5 days (common trt), M/W/F, EOD, or daily depending on one's SHBG among other things.</p><p></p><p>Most men injecting 100 mg/week will attain t levels in the mid-normal range whereas others may end up attaining high-normal t levels, of course, some men that are aiming for t levels on the higher end of the physiological range are usually injecting 120-150 mg/week and even than 150 mg/week will have most men's FT very high.</p><p></p><p>Sure there is a small percentage of men that need 200 mg/week on trt but it is rare and uncommon as 200 mg/week would put most men's levels into the higher supra-physiological range.</p><p></p><p>Of course, each individual responds differently to testosterone due to one's SHBG/sensitivity of the AR (androgen receptor)/polymorphism of the AR and CAG repeat lengths (short/long) and lastly regarding the negative effects one may encounter due to testosterones metabolites estradiol/dht are due to genetics as some experience sides even using lower trt doses and other can use higher doses before negative sides manifest.</p><p></p><p>One will definitely notice improvements in muscle gains/strength/recovery and fat loss on trt especially if diet/training are in check but a big increases in muscle/strength are only seen when one's testosterone levels are in the higher supra-physiological range as in 2000-5000 ng/dl and usually requires at a minimum of 250-600 mg/week of testosterone.</p><p></p><p>Mind you there are some that may consider 200 mg T/week a low-dose steroid cycle and there is a good percentage of men blessed with good genetics that will gain a lot of muscle on such a dose.</p><p></p><p>I would say most on trt that are into weight training and have a good diet/training protocol can make good gains in muscle/strength but to really see benefits one would need to blast/cruise which some choose to do or use high dosages of testosterone to attain higher supra-physiological levels as in many of the studies big gains in muscle mass are attained using 300-600 mg/week.</p><p></p><p>Trt doses of 100-150 mg/week will result in muscle gains but not as much as one using high doses of 300-600 mg/week.</p><p></p><p>Higher testosterone doses which result in very high supra-physiological T levels will cause much better gains in muscle/strength up to a point where the negatives (side effects) will outweigh the positive effects of the hormone and its metabolites.</p><p></p><p>Even then also do understand that even though one will build overall muscle mass faster when using supra-physiological doses of testosterone the quantity gains (intra/extracellular water, increased glycogen) will be noticed right away and the quality dry gains (actin/myosin) will be faster than when one has average natural testosterone levels but even on steroids gains in actin/myosin (muscle tissue) still takes time.</p><p></p><p>Always found it humorous when guys use steroids (cycling/blasting and cruising) and gain quite a large amount of muscle when in reality sure they have increased pure muscle gains in new tissue (actin/myosin) but at least 1/2 -3/4 of their gains can be from increased water weight (intra-cellular) due to increased glycogen storage and (extra-cellular) due to excess e2/retention of sodium which one pisses out when one's testosterone levels return to baseline after the cycle. Then the goal is pct if cycling to try and attain most of the muscle tissue or cruise back on lower doses (whether on trt or blasting/cruising) to keep the new gains (actin/myosin).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="madman, post: 103666, member: 13851"] Sure when one is on trt there will be positive changes in body composition (increase muscle tissue -actin/myosin, intra- cellular water due to increased glycogen storage) and of course extra-cellular water due to water retention from elevated e2 (unless on is using an aromatase inhibitor). The body composition changes on trt whether one has mid-normal physiological levels (total t/free t) or high-normal physiological levels (total t/free t) or even slightly above the top end of the physiological range will be nowhere comparable to one using steroid doses to attain supra-physiological levels. On average most on trt are using anywhere from 100-150 mg/week of testosterone whether injected once weekly or split up into more frequent injections as every 3.5 days (common trt), M/W/F, EOD, or daily depending on one's SHBG among other things. Most men injecting 100 mg/week will attain t levels in the mid-normal range whereas others may end up attaining high-normal t levels, of course, some men that are aiming for t levels on the higher end of the physiological range are usually injecting 120-150 mg/week and even than 150 mg/week will have most men's FT very high. Sure there is a small percentage of men that need 200 mg/week on trt but it is rare and uncommon as 200 mg/week would put most men's levels into the higher supra-physiological range. Of course, each individual responds differently to testosterone due to one's SHBG/sensitivity of the AR (androgen receptor)/polymorphism of the AR and CAG repeat lengths (short/long) and lastly regarding the negative effects one may encounter due to testosterones metabolites estradiol/dht are due to genetics as some experience sides even using lower trt doses and other can use higher doses before negative sides manifest. One will definitely notice improvements in muscle gains/strength/recovery and fat loss on trt especially if diet/training are in check but a big increases in muscle/strength are only seen when one's testosterone levels are in the higher supra-physiological range as in 2000-5000 ng/dl and usually requires at a minimum of 250-600 mg/week of testosterone. Mind you there are some that may consider 200 mg T/week a low-dose steroid cycle and there is a good percentage of men blessed with good genetics that will gain a lot of muscle on such a dose. I would say most on trt that are into weight training and have a good diet/training protocol can make good gains in muscle/strength but to really see benefits one would need to blast/cruise which some choose to do or use high dosages of testosterone to attain higher supra-physiological levels as in many of the studies big gains in muscle mass are attained using 300-600 mg/week. Trt doses of 100-150 mg/week will result in muscle gains but not as much as one using high doses of 300-600 mg/week. Higher testosterone doses which result in very high supra-physiological T levels will cause much better gains in muscle/strength up to a point where the negatives (side effects) will outweigh the positive effects of the hormone and its metabolites. Even then also do understand that even though one will build overall muscle mass faster when using supra-physiological doses of testosterone the quantity gains (intra/extracellular water, increased glycogen) will be noticed right away and the quality dry gains (actin/myosin) will be faster than when one has average natural testosterone levels but even on steroids gains in actin/myosin (muscle tissue) still takes time. Always found it humorous when guys use steroids (cycling/blasting and cruising) and gain quite a large amount of muscle when in reality sure they have increased pure muscle gains in new tissue (actin/myosin) but at least 1/2 -3/4 of their gains can be from increased water weight (intra-cellular) due to increased glycogen storage and (extra-cellular) due to excess e2/retention of sodium which one pisses out when one's testosterone levels return to baseline after the cycle. Then the goal is pct if cycling to try and attain most of the muscle tissue or cruise back on lower doses (whether on trt or blasting/cruising) to keep the new gains (actin/myosin). [/QUOTE]
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