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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
When Testosterone Is Not Enough
How long does it take for HCG to kick in, or am I being impatient?
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<blockquote data-quote="Kris" data-source="post: 271632" data-attributes="member: 46250"><p>Hello. Newbie here, based in the UK. Excuse long post. I’ve been on TRT for a decade now, for secondary hypogonadism, with many ups and downs. That darn pituitary gland! I’ll cover my full story another day, in case it helps others, but only in the past two years have I had treatment that has helped after going to a private doctor rather than the National Health Service.</p><p></p><p>Even with this treatment – Sustanon 250 injections with Anastrazole to stop my estradiol shooting up - I’ve still struggled with tiredness and ED. So, a few weeks ago, under supervision from my doc, I stopped my meds briefly.</p><p></p><p>My expectation was that the ED would go away for a bit and then I’d crash again. And that’s exactly what happened - the ED went away and my mood and energy improved. I felt really good for a few days, and then, as my testosterone levels inevitably plummeted, I felt terrible again, so I started on my meds again.</p><p></p><p>This was really useful as it allowed us to identify that there was scope to tweak my treatment as the likelihood was that the reactivation of LH (and possibly FSH) made my private parts work naturally again - until the huge drop in testosterone outweighed everything.</p><p></p><p>So now I’ve started on HCG – 250iu injections three times a week, equating to 875iu a week. This is on top of 0.25ml Sustanon and 0.5mg Anastrazole twice a week. I should add here that I was on 0.25mg Anastrazole twice a week, but within a week of starting the HCG I started to get pain under my nipples and general tenderness and warmth in those areas. The increase in dosage, to prevent gynecomastia, seems to have helped although the tenderness hasn’t gone completely. I guess I just need to wait and see. I’m aware how difficult it is the balance hormones but obviously I want to head-off gynecomastia before it develops.</p><p></p><p>So far, three weeks on, I haven’t experienced the ED improvements, although I think my mood and energy levels have improved a bit. Sleep is still dreadful.</p><p></p><p>I’ve searched the site and watched some of Nelson’s videos, but my questions are:</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>How long does it take for HCG to work?</strong> I’m guessing it takes a while for it to build up to a stage where it is able to properly mimic LH.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I’ve heard that it takes a month or so, but if there’s no improvement after that, <strong>should I increase my HCG dosage</strong> (in conjunction with my doc) to 375iu (ie from 0.1ml to 0.15ml)?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Or should I try <strong>Clomiphene </strong>instead?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Whilst typing, I’ve just found <a href="https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/how-long-for-hcg-to-kick-in.28094/" target="_blank">this useful thread</a>, so my final question is: ‘<strong>Am I just being impatient?</strong>’</li> </ul><p>Again, excuse the long post, but hopefully the context helps. If you’ve got this far, thanks for reading.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kris, post: 271632, member: 46250"] Hello. Newbie here, based in the UK. Excuse long post. I’ve been on TRT for a decade now, for secondary hypogonadism, with many ups and downs. That darn pituitary gland! I’ll cover my full story another day, in case it helps others, but only in the past two years have I had treatment that has helped after going to a private doctor rather than the National Health Service. Even with this treatment – Sustanon 250 injections with Anastrazole to stop my estradiol shooting up - I’ve still struggled with tiredness and ED. So, a few weeks ago, under supervision from my doc, I stopped my meds briefly. My expectation was that the ED would go away for a bit and then I’d crash again. And that’s exactly what happened - the ED went away and my mood and energy improved. I felt really good for a few days, and then, as my testosterone levels inevitably plummeted, I felt terrible again, so I started on my meds again. This was really useful as it allowed us to identify that there was scope to tweak my treatment as the likelihood was that the reactivation of LH (and possibly FSH) made my private parts work naturally again - until the huge drop in testosterone outweighed everything. So now I’ve started on HCG – 250iu injections three times a week, equating to 875iu a week. This is on top of 0.25ml Sustanon and 0.5mg Anastrazole twice a week. I should add here that I was on 0.25mg Anastrazole twice a week, but within a week of starting the HCG I started to get pain under my nipples and general tenderness and warmth in those areas. The increase in dosage, to prevent gynecomastia, seems to have helped although the tenderness hasn’t gone completely. I guess I just need to wait and see. I’m aware how difficult it is the balance hormones but obviously I want to head-off gynecomastia before it develops. So far, three weeks on, I haven’t experienced the ED improvements, although I think my mood and energy levels have improved a bit. Sleep is still dreadful. I’ve searched the site and watched some of Nelson’s videos, but my questions are: [LIST] [*][B]How long does it take for HCG to work?[/B] I’m guessing it takes a while for it to build up to a stage where it is able to properly mimic LH. [*]I’ve heard that it takes a month or so, but if there’s no improvement after that, [B]should I increase my HCG dosage[/B] (in conjunction with my doc) to 375iu (ie from 0.1ml to 0.15ml)? [*]Or should I try [B]Clomiphene [/B]instead? [*]Whilst typing, I’ve just found [URL='https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/how-long-for-hcg-to-kick-in.28094/']this useful thread[/URL], so my final question is: ‘[B]Am I just being impatient?[/B]’ [/LIST] Again, excuse the long post, but hopefully the context helps. If you’ve got this far, thanks for reading. [/QUOTE]
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