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I was being sarcastic. Totally agree with you systemlord. Science, data, and measurable results are of utmost importance. I ate tons of meat when it seemed like the right thing. I'm unaware of anyone that hasn't had vastly improved labs with even better results on a whole-food plant based diet--plus it's undeniable that meat hurts the environmental and the animals getting slaughtered. Sorry for getting off topic. 100 out of 100 doctors would agree labs will improve on a whole-food plant based diet as long as vit B through nutritional yeast and other similar common sense measured are taken. Would love to hear if this actually helps if you try it.

I am surprised you're on Jatenzo but probably because I'm not studied on your motivation and underlying issues. I've tried creams but generally felt the risk/reward with injectables were far better than orals.