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High Estradiol in Men: Article that Fueled Hysteria
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<blockquote data-quote="Nelson Vergel" data-source="post: 149060" data-attributes="member: 3"><p>This is the study mentioned in the LEF article that fed the hysteria that was already in bodybuilding forums:</p><p></p><p><strong>STUDY LOOKING AT EFFECT OF ESTRADIOL ON MORTALITY IN MEN:</strong></p><p></p><p>Weakness of this study: Men who were older, sicker and with average T of 325 ng/dL. Can these results be extrapolated for men with higher T who are younger and healthier? I doubt it. Unless we follow T/E2 ratios, we can't conclude much from these data.</p><p></p><p>This study found that estradiol levels of < 21.80 pg/ml and > 30.11 pg/ml resulted in greater mortality in men.</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Abstract</strong></p><p></p><p>CONTEXT:</p><p></p><p>Androgen deficiency is common in men with chronic heart failure (HF) and is associated with increased morbidity and mortality. Estrogens are formed by the aromatization of androgens; therefore, abnormal estrogen metabolism would be anticipated in HF.</p><p></p><p></p><p>OBJECTIVE:</p><p></p><p>To examine the relationship between serum concentration of estradiol and mortality in men with chronic HF and reduced left ventricular ejection fraction (LVEF).</p><p></p><p></p><p>DESIGN, SETTING, AND PARTICIPANTS:</p><p></p><p>A prospective observational study at 2 tertiary cardiology centers (Wroclaw and Zabrze, Poland) of 501 men (mean [SD] age, 58 [12] years) with chronic HF, LVEF of 28% (SD, 8%), and New York Heart Association [NYHA] classes 1, 2, 3, and 4 of 52, 231, 181, and 37, respectively, who were recruited between January 1, 2002, and May 31, 2006. The cohort was divided into quintiles of serum estradiol</p><p></p><p>quintile 1, < 12.90 pg/mL;</p><p>quintile 2, 12.90-21.79 pg/mL;</p><p>quintile 3, 21.80-30.11 pg/mL;</p><p>quintile 4, 30.12-37.39 pg/mL;</p><p>and quintile 5, > or = 37.40 pg/mL.</p><p></p><p>Quintile 3 was considered prospectively as the reference group.</p><p></p><p></p><p>MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES:</p><p></p><p>Serum concentrations of estradiol and androgens (total testosterone and dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate [DHEA-S]) were measured using immunoassays.</p><p></p><p></p><p>RESULTS:</p><p></p><p>Among 501 men with chronic HF, 171 deaths (34%) occurred during the 3-year follow-up. Compared with quintile 3, men in the lowest and highest estradiol quintiles had increased mortality (adjusted hazard ratio<hr /><p>, 4.17; 95% confidence interval [CI], 2.33-7.45 and HR, 2.33; 95% CI, 1.30-4.18; respectively; P < .001). These 2 quintiles had different clinical characteristics (quintile 1: increased serum total testosterone, decreased serum DHEA-S, advanced NYHA class, impaired renal function, and decreased total fat tissue mass; and quintile 5: increased serum bilirubin and liver enzymes, and decreased serum sodium; all P < .05 vs quintile 3). For increasing estradiol quintiles, 3-year survival rates adjusted for clinical variables and androgens were 44.6% (95% CI, 24.4%-63.0%), 65.8% (95% CI, 47.3%-79.2%), 82.4% (95% CI, 69.4%-90.2%), 79.0% (95% CI, 65.5%-87.6%), and 63.6% (95% CI, 46.6%-76.5%); respectively (P < .001).</p><p></p><p>Reference:</p><p></p><p>Circulating estradiol and mortality in men with systolic chronic heart failure.</p><p>JAMA 2009 May 13;301(18):1892-901.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]7483[/ATTACH]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nelson Vergel, post: 149060, member: 3"] This is the study mentioned in the LEF article that fed the hysteria that was already in bodybuilding forums: [B]STUDY LOOKING AT EFFECT OF ESTRADIOL ON MORTALITY IN MEN:[/B] Weakness of this study: Men who were older, sicker and with average T of 325 ng/dL. Can these results be extrapolated for men with higher T who are younger and healthier? I doubt it. Unless we follow T/E2 ratios, we can't conclude much from these data. This study found that estradiol levels of < 21.80 pg/ml and > 30.11 pg/ml resulted in greater mortality in men. [B]Abstract[/B] CONTEXT: Androgen deficiency is common in men with chronic heart failure (HF) and is associated with increased morbidity and mortality. Estrogens are formed by the aromatization of androgens; therefore, abnormal estrogen metabolism would be anticipated in HF. OBJECTIVE: To examine the relationship between serum concentration of estradiol and mortality in men with chronic HF and reduced left ventricular ejection fraction (LVEF). DESIGN, SETTING, AND PARTICIPANTS: A prospective observational study at 2 tertiary cardiology centers (Wroclaw and Zabrze, Poland) of 501 men (mean [SD] age, 58 [12] years) with chronic HF, LVEF of 28% (SD, 8%), and New York Heart Association [NYHA] classes 1, 2, 3, and 4 of 52, 231, 181, and 37, respectively, who were recruited between January 1, 2002, and May 31, 2006. The cohort was divided into quintiles of serum estradiol quintile 1, < 12.90 pg/mL; quintile 2, 12.90-21.79 pg/mL; quintile 3, 21.80-30.11 pg/mL; quintile 4, 30.12-37.39 pg/mL; and quintile 5, > or = 37.40 pg/mL. Quintile 3 was considered prospectively as the reference group. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: Serum concentrations of estradiol and androgens (total testosterone and dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate [DHEA-S]) were measured using immunoassays. RESULTS: Among 501 men with chronic HF, 171 deaths (34%) occurred during the 3-year follow-up. Compared with quintile 3, men in the lowest and highest estradiol quintiles had increased mortality (adjusted hazard ratio [HR], 4.17; 95% confidence interval [CI], 2.33-7.45 and HR, 2.33; 95% CI, 1.30-4.18; respectively; P < .001). These 2 quintiles had different clinical characteristics (quintile 1: increased serum total testosterone, decreased serum DHEA-S, advanced NYHA class, impaired renal function, and decreased total fat tissue mass; and quintile 5: increased serum bilirubin and liver enzymes, and decreased serum sodium; all P < .05 vs quintile 3). For increasing estradiol quintiles, 3-year survival rates adjusted for clinical variables and androgens were 44.6% (95% CI, 24.4%-63.0%), 65.8% (95% CI, 47.3%-79.2%), 82.4% (95% CI, 69.4%-90.2%), 79.0% (95% CI, 65.5%-87.6%), and 63.6% (95% CI, 46.6%-76.5%); respectively (P < .001). Reference: Circulating estradiol and mortality in men with systolic chronic heart failure. JAMA 2009 May 13;301(18):1892-901. [ATTACH=full]7483[/ATTACH][/HR] [/QUOTE]
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