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Here's a scary thought: Long term LH suppression on TRT- What are the effects?
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<blockquote data-quote="frankwhite" data-source="post: 100548" data-attributes="member: 17830"><p>I'm not a doctor, although I've had to educate 2 of my last doctors about TRT, HCG, even sitting with one doctor for 30 minutes making him watch Youtube videos only to have him say, "wow, that's interesting, I dodn't know that." I have taken my own 8 years of experience and countless accounts from other guys and I see a pattern emerging. It goes like this:</p><p></p><p>Guy goes to Dr. with classic symptoms - low energy, sexual/ED issues etc.</p><p>Guy is diagnosed with low testosterone and TRT is started.</p><p>Initially there is improvement.</p><p>The improvement lasts for 6 months, 1 year, 5 years... different for every guy.</p><p>Eventually the improvement disappears and sexual/ED issues come back worse than ever.</p><p>Maybe HCG is started if he wasn't doing it already.</p><p>Again there is an initial improvement.</p><p>Again the improvement disappears with time and sexual/ED issues come back even worse than before.</p><p></p><p>This is happening <strong><u>A LOT</u></strong>. It's happening more and more as guys are on TRT for longer periods of time, and we have no understanding of what is happening. Think about this...</p><p></p><p>Long term testosterone = long term LH suppression.</p><p>LH does more than just stimulate testicular leydig cells. LH binds to receptor sites all up and down the penis. I'm guessing that over time when those receptor sites are empty is when you start to lose penis sensitivity (more and more complaints of sensitivity issues every day) and your penis seems to shrink, weaken, and shrivel up. Which makes sense when we see HCG providing an initial improvement. HCG mimics LH, fills those receptor sites, and for a while sensitivity comes back. There are even reports of guys swearing HCG made their penis bigger/longer, which makes sense. But over time the HCG stops working, and you're left where many of us are now - on TRT for a few years, symptoms got better, then they got much worse. And for the last few years we have been experimenting with every possible thing - more test, more hcg, less test, less hcg, estrogen manipulation, stopping all together to see if we can just get back to "normal." It's absolutely maddening and it's getting worse.</p><p></p><p>If you haven't experience any of this yet, good for you. But you probably will at some point based on the amount of guys with the same story.</p><p></p><p>Would love to hear comments from one of the doctors on this forum.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="frankwhite, post: 100548, member: 17830"] I'm not a doctor, although I've had to educate 2 of my last doctors about TRT, HCG, even sitting with one doctor for 30 minutes making him watch Youtube videos only to have him say, "wow, that's interesting, I dodn't know that." I have taken my own 8 years of experience and countless accounts from other guys and I see a pattern emerging. It goes like this: Guy goes to Dr. with classic symptoms - low energy, sexual/ED issues etc. Guy is diagnosed with low testosterone and TRT is started. Initially there is improvement. The improvement lasts for 6 months, 1 year, 5 years... different for every guy. Eventually the improvement disappears and sexual/ED issues come back worse than ever. Maybe HCG is started if he wasn't doing it already. Again there is an initial improvement. Again the improvement disappears with time and sexual/ED issues come back even worse than before. This is happening [B][U]A LOT[/U][/B]. It's happening more and more as guys are on TRT for longer periods of time, and we have no understanding of what is happening. Think about this... Long term testosterone = long term LH suppression. LH does more than just stimulate testicular leydig cells. LH binds to receptor sites all up and down the penis. I'm guessing that over time when those receptor sites are empty is when you start to lose penis sensitivity (more and more complaints of sensitivity issues every day) and your penis seems to shrink, weaken, and shrivel up. Which makes sense when we see HCG providing an initial improvement. HCG mimics LH, fills those receptor sites, and for a while sensitivity comes back. There are even reports of guys swearing HCG made their penis bigger/longer, which makes sense. But over time the HCG stops working, and you're left where many of us are now - on TRT for a few years, symptoms got better, then they got much worse. And for the last few years we have been experimenting with every possible thing - more test, more hcg, less test, less hcg, estrogen manipulation, stopping all together to see if we can just get back to "normal." It's absolutely maddening and it's getting worse. If you haven't experience any of this yet, good for you. But you probably will at some point based on the amount of guys with the same story. Would love to hear comments from one of the doctors on this forum. [/QUOTE]
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