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Help - Conflicting Testosterone Test Results - Salvia vs Blood Test
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<blockquote data-quote="jriptide" data-source="post: 68064" data-attributes="member: 15477"><p>I am hoping someone can shed some light on blood vs saliva testing of Testosterone levels. </p><p>I just had my testosterone level checked via a saliva test, the results were <strong>over 2000 ></strong> (not sure of the units used) , which my “new” doctor told me were way too high. However just a week earlier I had a blood test to measure my testosterone after being on a 5 g of gel (50 mg) for 2.5 months and my testosterone <strong>increased from 8.1 to 12.6 nmol/L. </strong>Which to me seems still too low for a 49 year that regularly weight lifts.</p><p></p><p>My concern is that based on the saliva test results my new doctor wants to cut my Androgel dosage from 50mg to 10mg. But if you look at my blood tests instead of the saliva tests, logic would lead one to believe my Androgel dosage should be increased not decreased. My “new” doctor dismissed blood tests as a not an effective way of measuring testosterone, stating saliva is far more accurate. I asked him why doctors used blood tests for Testosterone and he said he had no idea. I have provided my Testosterone tests below to provide some history. I am worried going on this lower dosage will make me feel like crap again maybe even worse as my testicles have shrunk to half size since going on Gel. I went to this new Doctor as he works at clinic that specialized in hormone balance. I also have thyroid issues and was diagnosed hypothyroid back in 2005.</p><p></p><p>Here is a list of my blood results</p><p></p><p><strong>March 26 2017 – Saliva Hormone Test included Testosterone = <2000 </strong> (not sure of what units were used but my results exceeded upper test limit for Saliva test)</p><p></p><p><strong>March - 21 2017 - Testosterone 12.7 nmol/L</strong> – Switched to 50mg gel after pills had very little impact on my testosterone levels.</p><p></p><p><strong>January 2017 - Testosterone Test Results -= 8.1 nmol/L </strong>– TRT Medications - pms-Testosterone (testosterone undecanoate) 40mg pills – 3 pills a day for 1.5 years -</p><p></p><p><strong>May – 2015 - Test Results = 7.4 nmol/L</strong> - First diagnosed Low Testosterone </p><p></p><p>Note I am requesting my full saliva lab results as the doctor did not give them to me just let me see them. But I can share that the results showed I was too low on DHEA, Progesterone and E1 ,E2 , and E3. While also being too high on Testosterone and Androstenedione.</p><p>One thing I wondered about was contaminated the salvia sample by potentially getting gel residue on my hands and transferring to my salvia while holding the tubes as I spit in them. My new doctor said that was a possibility but said that does not explain the high Androstenedione results.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jriptide, post: 68064, member: 15477"] I am hoping someone can shed some light on blood vs saliva testing of Testosterone levels. I just had my testosterone level checked via a saliva test, the results were [B]over 2000 >[/B] (not sure of the units used) , which my “new” doctor told me were way too high. However just a week earlier I had a blood test to measure my testosterone after being on a 5 g of gel (50 mg) for 2.5 months and my testosterone [B]increased from 8.1 to 12.6 nmol/L. [/B]Which to me seems still too low for a 49 year that regularly weight lifts. My concern is that based on the saliva test results my new doctor wants to cut my Androgel dosage from 50mg to 10mg. But if you look at my blood tests instead of the saliva tests, logic would lead one to believe my Androgel dosage should be increased not decreased. My “new” doctor dismissed blood tests as a not an effective way of measuring testosterone, stating saliva is far more accurate. I asked him why doctors used blood tests for Testosterone and he said he had no idea. I have provided my Testosterone tests below to provide some history. I am worried going on this lower dosage will make me feel like crap again maybe even worse as my testicles have shrunk to half size since going on Gel. I went to this new Doctor as he works at clinic that specialized in hormone balance. I also have thyroid issues and was diagnosed hypothyroid back in 2005. Here is a list of my blood results [B]March 26 2017 – Saliva Hormone Test included Testosterone = <2000 [/B] (not sure of what units were used but my results exceeded upper test limit for Saliva test) [B]March - 21 2017 - Testosterone 12.7 nmol/L[/B] – Switched to 50mg gel after pills had very little impact on my testosterone levels. [B]January 2017 - Testosterone Test Results -= 8.1 nmol/L [/B]– TRT Medications - pms-Testosterone (testosterone undecanoate) 40mg pills – 3 pills a day for 1.5 years - [B]May – 2015 - Test Results = 7.4 nmol/L[/B] - First diagnosed Low Testosterone Note I am requesting my full saliva lab results as the doctor did not give them to me just let me see them. But I can share that the results showed I was too low on DHEA, Progesterone and E1 ,E2 , and E3. While also being too high on Testosterone and Androstenedione. One thing I wondered about was contaminated the salvia sample by potentially getting gel residue on my hands and transferring to my salvia while holding the tubes as I spit in them. My new doctor said that was a possibility but said that does not explain the high Androstenedione results. [/QUOTE]
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