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Hello from Germany - Switching From Nebido to Enanthate
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<blockquote data-quote="Hellraiser" data-source="post: 59334" data-attributes="member: 14803"><p>Hey folks,</p><p></p><p>Greetings from Germany! </p><p>I'm currently 24 years old and have been on TRT since February 2016, mainly due to anxiety disorder. Funnily, a doctor - who focused on my thyroid due to the aforementioned psychological symptons - discovered the testosterone deficiency more or less by accident after all the thyroid tests came out positive. </p><p>I already read loads of information regarding TRT and the use of testosterone in a bodybuilding context on a german bodybuilding forum and the TRT subreddit. However, I still have a lot to learn and hope that this community will help me do so. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> Especially in light of the fact that I'm currently rather unhappy with my treatment.</p><p>It seems I metabolise the testosterone rather quickly, so my endo reduced the injection period of Nebido to 6 weeks. Finally there seems to be progress regarding my total testosterone value, even though I don't feel any better, to be honest. Especially the last days have been rough with sudden mood swings and strong anxiety kicking in again. Apart from that, my libido isn't really there where I would like it to be.</p><p>Today I also compiled my main blood levels (I have loads more, as the doctor also checked me for adrenal fatigue prior to transfering me to the endo; if you're interested, I can also upload these and some others) into an excel spreadsheet, for the sake of clarity for you guys. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>[ATTACH]3001[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>From my perspective it seems my thyroid values aren't really where they should be, even though I supplement selenium and Lugol's iodine; more on supplements later.</p><p>Also I think, although not really sure, that my SHBG is rather on the low end. Do you think I'd qualify for a low SHBG patient, thus metabolising the testosterone undecanoate so fast?</p><p>On a related note, being in Germany, I don't have access to the sensitive assay for measuring Estradiol. Also, my endo seems rather reluctant to prescribe testosterone enanthate (maybe I can talk him around in the long run, who knows). The same goes for HCG, I think, because I asked him if it would be possible to use as off-label-use prior to my first Nebido injection, and even though he said yes initially, I haven't got a response on the topic thus far. </p><p>To give you more context on my lifestyle: I work out four times a week (have been working out for about 3 years now) with a friend of mine, who is really experienced bodybuilding wise. Still, I really have a hard time putting on significant amount of muscle, but I attribute this to my lack of testosterone.</p><p>I eat about 3900 calories on rest-days and 4200 calories on training days. Beeing a pescetarian, my main source of protein is fish, apart from eggs and milk/low fat quark. I also put a big emphasis on my vegetable intake, so my daily goal is to eat at least 500 grams of veggies; this is complemented by about 200-300 grams of fruits.</p><p>My main carbohydrate source is white rice, even though I also eat potatoes from time to time. Noodles are rather the exception that the rule for me personally. </p><p>I could go on about nutrition all day, but I think you get the picture. Also, I want to mention that I cook my food every day and my sugar/processed food intake is basically none. The one sweet I eat daily is a little piece of dark chocolate (ranging from 70 to 100% cacao).</p><p>The supplements I use are as follows:</p><p>- Vitamin D/K2 drops, 5000 iu (Vitamin D) daily</p><p>- 200 mcg Selenium daily</p><p>- Magnesium citrate, although I don't consume a fixed amount daily</p><p>- 25mg Zinc bisglycinate daily</p><p>- 1 drop of 5% lugol's iodine, even though I up the intake from time to time; I'm rather reluctant to go to the full 50mgs as per Dr. Brownsteins recommendations, prior to doing a iodone saturation test.</p><p>- 2 tablespoons of psyllium husks</p><p></p><p>To sum it up, I hope to receive a lot of feedback from you guys, so I/we can work out how to improve my TRT experience in the long term! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Best regards</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hellraiser, post: 59334, member: 14803"] Hey folks, Greetings from Germany! I'm currently 24 years old and have been on TRT since February 2016, mainly due to anxiety disorder. Funnily, a doctor - who focused on my thyroid due to the aforementioned psychological symptons - discovered the testosterone deficiency more or less by accident after all the thyroid tests came out positive. I already read loads of information regarding TRT and the use of testosterone in a bodybuilding context on a german bodybuilding forum and the TRT subreddit. However, I still have a lot to learn and hope that this community will help me do so. :) Especially in light of the fact that I'm currently rather unhappy with my treatment. It seems I metabolise the testosterone rather quickly, so my endo reduced the injection period of Nebido to 6 weeks. Finally there seems to be progress regarding my total testosterone value, even though I don't feel any better, to be honest. Especially the last days have been rough with sudden mood swings and strong anxiety kicking in again. Apart from that, my libido isn't really there where I would like it to be. Today I also compiled my main blood levels (I have loads more, as the doctor also checked me for adrenal fatigue prior to transfering me to the endo; if you're interested, I can also upload these and some others) into an excel spreadsheet, for the sake of clarity for you guys. :) [ATTACH=CONFIG]3001[/ATTACH] From my perspective it seems my thyroid values aren't really where they should be, even though I supplement selenium and Lugol's iodine; more on supplements later. Also I think, although not really sure, that my SHBG is rather on the low end. Do you think I'd qualify for a low SHBG patient, thus metabolising the testosterone undecanoate so fast? On a related note, being in Germany, I don't have access to the sensitive assay for measuring Estradiol. Also, my endo seems rather reluctant to prescribe testosterone enanthate (maybe I can talk him around in the long run, who knows). The same goes for HCG, I think, because I asked him if it would be possible to use as off-label-use prior to my first Nebido injection, and even though he said yes initially, I haven't got a response on the topic thus far. To give you more context on my lifestyle: I work out four times a week (have been working out for about 3 years now) with a friend of mine, who is really experienced bodybuilding wise. Still, I really have a hard time putting on significant amount of muscle, but I attribute this to my lack of testosterone. I eat about 3900 calories on rest-days and 4200 calories on training days. Beeing a pescetarian, my main source of protein is fish, apart from eggs and milk/low fat quark. I also put a big emphasis on my vegetable intake, so my daily goal is to eat at least 500 grams of veggies; this is complemented by about 200-300 grams of fruits. My main carbohydrate source is white rice, even though I also eat potatoes from time to time. Noodles are rather the exception that the rule for me personally. I could go on about nutrition all day, but I think you get the picture. Also, I want to mention that I cook my food every day and my sugar/processed food intake is basically none. The one sweet I eat daily is a little piece of dark chocolate (ranging from 70 to 100% cacao). The supplements I use are as follows: - Vitamin D/K2 drops, 5000 iu (Vitamin D) daily - 200 mcg Selenium daily - Magnesium citrate, although I don't consume a fixed amount daily - 25mg Zinc bisglycinate daily - 1 drop of 5% lugol's iodine, even though I up the intake from time to time; I'm rather reluctant to go to the full 50mgs as per Dr. Brownsteins recommendations, prior to doing a iodone saturation test. - 2 tablespoons of psyllium husks To sum it up, I hope to receive a lot of feedback from you guys, so I/we can work out how to improve my TRT experience in the long term! :) Best regards [/QUOTE]
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