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Tamoxifen is the only one they use in my country. So clomid is off the limits for me, and since I don't live in the US I can't use Defy either.


I got bloods after 2 weeks of Tamoxifen 20mg/d.

Now I know 2 weeks is way too early for bloods, but I wanted to see if the medicine had started to do anything.

My testosterone labs were:


Total testosterone 1.0 nmol/l (8-29)

SHBG: 32 nmol/l (15-95)

Free testosterone: 16 pmol/l (155-800)

Should have taken LH too but didn't


Even though two weeks is a short time, I recon my level should be at least a bit higher than that, right?? Shit!


Anyways, my new TRT doc said that I should just continue with trt, which I think is the right thing to do.

He told me to contact fertility doctor, and now I'm back on hcg with a smaller dose of 2500iu 2x week.

The plan is to freeze some sperm and then hop back on TRT.

Bummer, since I would have loved to be without any medication, but it seems it's just not possible.


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