HCG is the problem....

[BigBamBoo]

Hi folks.
Some of you have probably read some of my other post. But here is a brief overview.

I was having high E side on my starting protocol of 80mg of T and 500iu of HCG every 3.5
days.

I tried lowering my T dose to 60mg every 3.5 days, and all that did was lower my E2 from 75 to about 70.
And my TT went from 1000+ to about 950 and my FT from 25+ to around 19.

I am a extream over responder to AI so I almost stopped TRT. But decided to go to M-W-F of 50mg of T and no HCG.

Wow....big diffence. My E2 issues stopped. And I am feeling the best I have since starting TRT.

So while waiting for Labcorp to catch up on E2 tests, I decided to add back in HCG. Bingo...after two doses of 350iu I started having acne issues, sore nipples, and my mood dropped a bit.
I stopped again with the HCG and now after a week since my last shot of HCG...no more high E2 symptoms.

I have been worried about my nuts shrinking, but so far...if anything...they seem fuller and actually are hanging lower than when I was using HCG.

I am secondary, and I guess the HCG is converting to E.

Anyways...will be pulling labs in another week or so and hope Lapcorp has their back log caught up.
Will post labs then.

 

[Vince]

I'm happy that you're feeling so good. I know a lot of members can't use HCG and others use a very low dose. It shows how different all are.

 

[fifty]

Interesting. Please keep us updated. I am starting MWF injections starting next week. Your posts are helpful.

 

[BigBamBoo]

Yes, we are all different for sure.

My wish now looking back would have been when I started TRT to just start a low T dose with no HCG or AI. And then and only then, added things and upped the dosage as needed.

But in all honesty, I needed to hear that I was going to have HCG and an AI or I probably would not have started or went with Defy.
I bet I am not alone on this.

I think back to the first online clinic I talked to and what an absolute shit show I would have been if I went with their protocol.
They wanted me on 200mg a week of T, 1500iu of HCG and....wait for it...TWO mg of AI a week.

 

[Moogie]

So I am starting my 8th week of TRT. I had E2 issues and it seemed to go sideways with HCG. After my HCG shot, I felt terrible BUT my libido went through the roof.

So I wanted to experiment.

I stopped HCG for a week and a few days and my symptoms subsided, jumped back on it and E2 symptoms came right back. Doc added .125 of AI and I got to tell you, I do feel better with AI EOD. I am not completely sure if I will continue with HCG - and if I stop, I may not need the AI. I want to go as little of RX as possible. I am taking 500ml HCG 2x week and Test C 40ml 2x week. AI .125 EOD.

Gotta tell you, I like the libido boost though....

Good post - keep us up to date.

 

[Vince]

I'm one who never had any issues with E2 or HCG. I've been injecting 500 IU of HCG twice a week for four years now.

 

[theoneguy]

I found at 250IU 2x a week my upper back was breaking out in tons of pimples but at 500IU a week it is clearing up and going away and I feel much much better. Maybe the higher does increases your progesterone levels more? did you ever get your DHEA and Progesterone checked on HCG?

 

[Vince]

I also supplement with 25 mg of DHEA and 10 mg of pregnenolone.
DHEA - Sulfate 347.3 range 48.9 - 344.2

 

[BigBamBoo]

When I was taking 25mg of DHEA I was at 540+ on my last labs. I stopped taking it thinking it was adding to my high E issues.

 

[Nelson Vergel]

stopped hcg excelmale.com site:www.excelmale.com - Google Search