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Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Hard Cardio while on AAS? Ally/Enemy/Indifferent?
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<blockquote data-quote="Guided_by_Voices" data-source="post: 229860" data-attributes="member: 15235"><p>Before bringing AAS into the equation, I think it is better to set context and point out that extended cardio above one's level of aerobic fitness is likely a bad idea for everyone no matter what. There has been lots of study and writing on this from people like Phil Maffetone, Mark Sisson, and various cardiologists who point out that extended high-intensity cardio clearly produces blood markers of CV damage without any offsetting benefit in comparison to correct training. This is a huge topic, but as Mark Sisson sums it up, "Make your long easy workouts longer and easier, and your short hard workouts shorter and harder". Introducing AAS into the topic is just another opportunity to unfairly bash AAS when in fact the problem is the training modality. Additionally, AAS could include a lot of different scenarios and could be beneficial in some cases. For example, if someone was going to do something they knew was not ideal from a cardiac conditioning standpoint where they could be overworked (a charity bike ride for example), I would be very interested to know if something like Boldenone, which increases EPO and is well-known to support enhanced endurance, could in fact be cardio-protective in such a situation. or if it could promote more rapid adaptation to a high cardiac load that would partially last after the drug cleared. Or as other threads have described, if nandrolone makes the difference between someone be basically immobile and being able to do appropriate cardio, the cardio benefits could very well be a net positive even if there are theorized/unproven cardiac negatives to the compound. So...I suggest either eliminating AAS from the question or clarifying specifically how they might help since we know "hard cardio" is bad by itself.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guided_by_Voices, post: 229860, member: 15235"] Before bringing AAS into the equation, I think it is better to set context and point out that extended cardio above one's level of aerobic fitness is likely a bad idea for everyone no matter what. There has been lots of study and writing on this from people like Phil Maffetone, Mark Sisson, and various cardiologists who point out that extended high-intensity cardio clearly produces blood markers of CV damage without any offsetting benefit in comparison to correct training. This is a huge topic, but as Mark Sisson sums it up, "Make your long easy workouts longer and easier, and your short hard workouts shorter and harder". Introducing AAS into the topic is just another opportunity to unfairly bash AAS when in fact the problem is the training modality. Additionally, AAS could include a lot of different scenarios and could be beneficial in some cases. For example, if someone was going to do something they knew was not ideal from a cardiac conditioning standpoint where they could be overworked (a charity bike ride for example), I would be very interested to know if something like Boldenone, which increases EPO and is well-known to support enhanced endurance, could in fact be cardio-protective in such a situation. or if it could promote more rapid adaptation to a high cardiac load that would partially last after the drug cleared. Or as other threads have described, if nandrolone makes the difference between someone be basically immobile and being able to do appropriate cardio, the cardio benefits could very well be a net positive even if there are theorized/unproven cardiac negatives to the compound. So...I suggest either eliminating AAS from the question or clarifying specifically how they might help since we know "hard cardio" is bad by itself. [/QUOTE]
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