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Agree with Vince. I use ADC for cialis and splitting costs about the same. Arginine and citruline are inexpensive as well, at least for the results you get. I have thought about trimix but why do that before all other things have been exhausted? While errections of 2 hours sounds very appealing to me, my wife disagrees. She is satisfied with 20 to 30 minutes. Any longer and she gets too sore and needs more than 2 days for that to change. I wouldn’t jump to the nuclear solution too soon...