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<blockquote data-quote="Guided_by_Voices" data-source="post: 118805" data-attributes="member: 15235"><p>I recently researched this and did one treatment. Here are my observations.</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">While I was not having major issues before the treatment and was just seeking to go from good to great, I would say that there was nothing negative and it seems to have been very helpful, although there were two possible confounders, one of which I will likely start another thread about.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I will likely do 5 more treatments early next year which will give a much better indication</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">From what I can tell, the use of sound waves to influence internal functioning seems legit and the studies I found on Gainswave seem quite supportive, although studies can be gamed and there is a disappointing lack of detail to indicate who might benefit more or less, what compounds would provide synergy, etc.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The biggest problem seems to be the near-total lack of user reports outside of likely biased provider sites</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">It seems logical that since part of the method of action is apparently increased blood vessel formation, one would want to use TB500 in conjunction with the treatments so that is what I did for my one treatment. A GH secretagogue also seems logical but I did not do that. There are likely many other synergies (e.g. HIIT, Citrulline, HBOT, EWOT) but without more community knowledge and experience, it is very early days as to what the most effective protocol really is.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The clinic I used said that blood vessel increase comes after multiple treatments, but I have no data to confirm that.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I have seen some reports that an every-three-months schedule works well, but some of the providers recommend getting all treatments done in rapid succession , so the lack of good data on variables like this is one of the big problems. It is simply an immature treatment in terms of widely validated experiences and unfortunately the providers don’t seem to be focused on publishing data to help it mature and help people make better decisions.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Many mature treatments like TRT have been substantially crowdsourced and GW is a bit expensive for that.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">My theory is that it may be most helpful for people who have suffered stress damage. There has been good evidence from rodent studies that if the male body is subjected to chronic stress that is then withdrawn, sexual function never fully recovers. So for people who have had stress damage, GW might be the answer.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The most likely confounder per my comment above is that I was taking high-dose niacin and I ran across information that it can cause severe methylation problems resulting in tiredness, loss of libido and other problems, so I think some of the benefit I’m seeing may be from stopping the niacin and starting TMG, that but it is hard to tell for sure.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">It seems to me that even if one is not in dire need of something like this, a lot of anti-aging is about starting preventative maintenance early since the farther advanced a problem is, the harder it usually is to reverse, so i think that is a factor as well.</li> </ul><p>Overall, I think it has great potential and is likely legit, however it is not helped by some of the scammy marketing some of the providers use. It is also fairly pricey for many people ($2500 for six treatments where I live) so it is basically a gamble, but likely better than many other options since it addresses a root cause, or at least worth a try as there seems to be no downside.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guided_by_Voices, post: 118805, member: 15235"] I recently researched this and did one treatment. Here are my observations. [LIST] [*]While I was not having major issues before the treatment and was just seeking to go from good to great, I would say that there was nothing negative and it seems to have been very helpful, although there were two possible confounders, one of which I will likely start another thread about. [*]I will likely do 5 more treatments early next year which will give a much better indication [*]From what I can tell, the use of sound waves to influence internal functioning seems legit and the studies I found on Gainswave seem quite supportive, although studies can be gamed and there is a disappointing lack of detail to indicate who might benefit more or less, what compounds would provide synergy, etc. [*]The biggest problem seems to be the near-total lack of user reports outside of likely biased provider sites [*]It seems logical that since part of the method of action is apparently increased blood vessel formation, one would want to use TB500 in conjunction with the treatments so that is what I did for my one treatment. A GH secretagogue also seems logical but I did not do that. There are likely many other synergies (e.g. HIIT, Citrulline, HBOT, EWOT) but without more community knowledge and experience, it is very early days as to what the most effective protocol really is. [*]The clinic I used said that blood vessel increase comes after multiple treatments, but I have no data to confirm that. [*]I have seen some reports that an every-three-months schedule works well, but some of the providers recommend getting all treatments done in rapid succession , so the lack of good data on variables like this is one of the big problems. It is simply an immature treatment in terms of widely validated experiences and unfortunately the providers don’t seem to be focused on publishing data to help it mature and help people make better decisions. [*]Many mature treatments like TRT have been substantially crowdsourced and GW is a bit expensive for that. [*]My theory is that it may be most helpful for people who have suffered stress damage. There has been good evidence from rodent studies that if the male body is subjected to chronic stress that is then withdrawn, sexual function never fully recovers. So for people who have had stress damage, GW might be the answer. [*]The most likely confounder per my comment above is that I was taking high-dose niacin and I ran across information that it can cause severe methylation problems resulting in tiredness, loss of libido and other problems, so I think some of the benefit I’m seeing may be from stopping the niacin and starting TMG, that but it is hard to tell for sure. [*]It seems to me that even if one is not in dire need of something like this, a lot of anti-aging is about starting preventative maintenance early since the farther advanced a problem is, the harder it usually is to reverse, so i think that is a factor as well. [/LIST] Overall, I think it has great potential and is likely legit, however it is not helped by some of the scammy marketing some of the providers use. It is also fairly pricey for many people ($2500 for six treatments where I live) so it is basically a gamble, but likely better than many other options since it addresses a root cause, or at least worth a try as there seems to be no downside. [/QUOTE]
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