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For Nelson Vergel, what’s your current protocol?
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<blockquote data-quote="Nelson Vergel" data-source="post: 225012" data-attributes="member: 3"><p>Any protocol that reduces your chances of long term HDL suppression and high hematocrit may be the way to go.</p><p></p><p>Back in the days when I was concerned about wasting, I used 200 mg testosterone plus 200 mg nandrolone per week. I reduced it to 100 mg of each after two years and stayed on it for probably two years more (I used to stop nandrolone for 2 months until I started observing any potential unintentional weight loss).</p><p></p><p>To be honest, I am 63 years old and cannot definitely tell you if I did any permanent damage to my cardiovascular system with long term nandrolone plus T use. I get a complete cardiovascular assessment once per year. My only issue is high blood pressure (which I treat). On nandrolone, my HDL averaged 30 and hematocrit 50. My LDL has always been good. My calcium score is not the best (100) but that is common in people with long term HIV with no exposure to anabolics.</p><p></p><p><em>"Individuals infected with HIV have a significantly increased risk for a variety of cardiovascular complications, including acute myocardial infarction,2 heart failure with both reduced and preserved ejection fraction,3 sudden cardiac death,4 peripheral arterial disease,5 and stroke." Ref: <a href="https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.118.036211#:~:text=Individuals%20infected%20with%20HIV%20have,arterial%20disease%2C5%20and%20stroke" target="_blank">https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.118.036211#:~:text=Individuals infected with HIV have,arterial disease,5 and stroke</a>.</em></p><p></p><p></p><p>I am glad I used nandrolone. I am convinced that it saved my life. <a href="https://www.ergogenics.org/nelson-vergel.html" target="_blank">For some, steroid use builds hope</a></p><p></p><p>I stopped nandrolone around 2008 since it made my blood pressure significantly go up (water retention related) and also found out it really did not help at all with visceral fat.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/deca-durabolin-nandrolone-question-for-nelson-vergel.7589/[/URL]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nelson Vergel, post: 225012, member: 3"] Any protocol that reduces your chances of long term HDL suppression and high hematocrit may be the way to go. Back in the days when I was concerned about wasting, I used 200 mg testosterone plus 200 mg nandrolone per week. I reduced it to 100 mg of each after two years and stayed on it for probably two years more (I used to stop nandrolone for 2 months until I started observing any potential unintentional weight loss). To be honest, I am 63 years old and cannot definitely tell you if I did any permanent damage to my cardiovascular system with long term nandrolone plus T use. I get a complete cardiovascular assessment once per year. My only issue is high blood pressure (which I treat). On nandrolone, my HDL averaged 30 and hematocrit 50. My LDL has always been good. My calcium score is not the best (100) but that is common in people with long term HIV with no exposure to anabolics. [I]"Individuals infected with HIV have a significantly increased risk for a variety of cardiovascular complications, including acute myocardial infarction,2 heart failure with both reduced and preserved ejection fraction,3 sudden cardiac death,4 peripheral arterial disease,5 and stroke." Ref: [URL='https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.118.036211#:~:text=Individuals%20infected%20with%20HIV%20have,arterial%20disease%2C5%20and%20stroke']https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.118.036211#:~:text=Individuals infected with HIV have,arterial disease,5 and stroke[/URL].[/I] I am glad I used nandrolone. I am convinced that it saved my life. [URL='https://www.ergogenics.org/nelson-vergel.html']For some, steroid use builds hope[/URL] I stopped nandrolone around 2008 since it made my blood pressure significantly go up (water retention related) and also found out it really did not help at all with visceral fat. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/deca-durabolin-nandrolone-question-for-nelson-vergel.7589/[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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