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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Testosterone Basics & Questions
First sub-q pin this morning - advice please
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<blockquote data-quote="madman" data-source="post: 159206" data-attributes="member: 13851"><p>Again forget worrying about your SHBG being high as I stated in your previous thread.....<a href="https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/anavar-or-proviron-to-lower-shbg.19607/#post-159064" target="_blank">Anavar or Proviron to lower SHBG</a> .....you would only need to hit a TT 1000 ng/dL to get your FT just slightly over the top end of the reference range and that is without your SHBG budging.</p><p></p><p>Regarding lowering SHBG when using exogenous testosterone (trt doses of 100-150 mg/week which are most common).....in many cases the drop in SHBG will be minimal and if anything it is large doses of androgens as in 250mg+ injected infrequently as in once weekly that have been shown to have a larger impact on lowering SHBG and it is the use of c-17 alpha alkylated orals which will have the biggest impact on lowering SHBG (no one uses such on trt).</p><p></p><p>200 mg/week of T is too large a dose to start with even when injecting lower amounts more frequently.</p><p></p><p>Best piece of advice when starting injections or switching from transdermal gels/creams is to start low and go slow.</p><p></p><p>Most men start on 100 mg/week (50 mg every 3.5 days would be better) and if SHBG is low one may start off injecting lower doses more frequently as in EOD or daily.</p><p></p><p>Labs would be done 6-8 weeks after starting injections to see where said dose of T puts your TT/FT/E2 levels.....than depending on where your FT levels sit (as we want to achieve a healthy level) and whether there is relief/improvement of low-t symptoms or lack there of than a slight dose increase may be needed.</p><p></p><p>Also keep in mind that when first starting injections or tweaking protocol (increasing T dose) hormones will be in FLUX during the weeks leading up until blood levels stabilize (6 weeks) and it is common for most to experience ups/downs during this transition so although levels will be stable at 6 weeks you need to give the protocol another 2-3 months to truly gauge how you feel overall as it takes the body time to truly adapt to the new T levels.</p><p></p><p>Even though your SHBG is high you would be better off injecting twice weekly @ 100-120mg/week (50-60 mg every 3.5 days) as oppose to jumping into EOD injections using a whopping T-dose (200 mg/week)......as you have no idea how your body is going to respond to said dose of T.</p><p></p><p>Much more sensible to start low and go slow!</p><p></p><p>You could dive into 140 mg/week (70 mg every 3.5 days).....but highly doubtful 200 mg/week would be needed even with your SHBG being high.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="madman, post: 159206, member: 13851"] Again forget worrying about your SHBG being high as I stated in your previous thread.....[URL="https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/anavar-or-proviron-to-lower-shbg.19607/#post-159064"]Anavar or Proviron to lower SHBG[/URL] .....you would only need to hit a TT 1000 ng/dL to get your FT just slightly over the top end of the reference range and that is without your SHBG budging. Regarding lowering SHBG when using exogenous testosterone (trt doses of 100-150 mg/week which are most common).....in many cases the drop in SHBG will be minimal and if anything it is large doses of androgens as in 250mg+ injected infrequently as in once weekly that have been shown to have a larger impact on lowering SHBG and it is the use of c-17 alpha alkylated orals which will have the biggest impact on lowering SHBG (no one uses such on trt). 200 mg/week of T is too large a dose to start with even when injecting lower amounts more frequently. Best piece of advice when starting injections or switching from transdermal gels/creams is to start low and go slow. Most men start on 100 mg/week (50 mg every 3.5 days would be better) and if SHBG is low one may start off injecting lower doses more frequently as in EOD or daily. Labs would be done 6-8 weeks after starting injections to see where said dose of T puts your TT/FT/E2 levels.....than depending on where your FT levels sit (as we want to achieve a healthy level) and whether there is relief/improvement of low-t symptoms or lack there of than a slight dose increase may be needed. Also keep in mind that when first starting injections or tweaking protocol (increasing T dose) hormones will be in FLUX during the weeks leading up until blood levels stabilize (6 weeks) and it is common for most to experience ups/downs during this transition so although levels will be stable at 6 weeks you need to give the protocol another 2-3 months to truly gauge how you feel overall as it takes the body time to truly adapt to the new T levels. Even though your SHBG is high you would be better off injecting twice weekly @ 100-120mg/week (50-60 mg every 3.5 days) as oppose to jumping into EOD injections using a whopping T-dose (200 mg/week)......as you have no idea how your body is going to respond to said dose of T. Much more sensible to start low and go slow! You could dive into 140 mg/week (70 mg every 3.5 days).....but highly doubtful 200 mg/week would be needed even with your SHBG being high. [/QUOTE]
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