first injection

[hfbjr]

Well,today was hopefully the start to a better me.its been a journey in just the way I ended up here,which was a simple go ogling of symptoms.

Any way,as expected it was kinda a trial and error,but I did it.dont laugh,but I couldn't figure out how to replace the 20 gauge needle, 1 inch long, for the 25 gauge!!needless to say,using a 20 gauge kinda hurt,lol.but I did figure out how to exchange it for next tues. Anyway,I hope someone got a kick out of it.

 

[ERO]

So you are injecting only once a week?

 

[hfbjr]

Yep,160 mgs.in 5 weeks,I'll do new labs and meet with doc.im kinda interested in daily,or every other day.

 

[ERO]

Cool. You may also want to get some insulin syringes at some point and inject with those. Your 25 gauge is a pretty fine needle, but a 29 is so fine you don't feel it break the skin. That and you can get a box of 100 for $12-$15 online. No hurry - that is just a comfort issue, what you have works fine.

https://www.excelmale.com/forum/sho...ugs-supplements-etc&highlight=insulin+syringe

 

[hfbjr]

Thanks ero

 

[Fireproof]

I started with 29g but was impatient waiting for the syringe to fill - it's pretty slow with the oil-based test. I switched to 27g and it's still pretty tiny, doesn't hurt, and is quicker to fill the syringe. Just my opinion.

 

[hfbjr]

Thanks for all the responses guys,I truly appreciate it,as this is all new too me

 

[Vettester Chris]

Keep us posted! It's a learning curve, and you will learn exactly what works best for you in time.

FYI, most of the time, I pin 27g x 5/8" in the lower thigh. It's quick and virtually don't even notice it going in (not always lol).

 

[hfbjr]

I use the outer thigh too,as it's where I give my b12.

Question,is there data out there that shows what a particular dose will bring ones testosterone range too,or will say 160 mg give one person in the 800's,while another might just be in the 500's?

 

[ERO]

I started with 29g but was impatient waiting for the syringe to fill - it's pretty slow with the oil-based test. I switched to 27g and it's still pretty tiny, doesn't hurt, and is quicker to fill the syringe. Just my opinion.

They are slow - what I do is take a 20 gauge and back fill them. E.G., pull the plunger out and fill with the larger needle. Its an extra step, though.

 

[Vettester Chris]

I use the outer thigh too,as it's where I give my b12.

Question,is there data out there that shows what a particular dose will bring ones testosterone range too,or will say 160 mg give one person in the 800's,while another might just be in the 500's?

The problem is that everyone metabolizes a bit differently, and depending on which day you draw labs, most definitely one guy could be quite a bit higher/lower in comparison to another with an equal dose.

Now here's the real killer, and I don't mean to disappoint or tick anyone off, BUT Total Test Serum really doesn't mean anything, because I could have a Total Serum of 590ng/dl and have higher testosterone than someone else who is at 800ng/dl! It's truth! Free/bio available test is where the rubber meets the road, and the rest is tied up in SHBG & Albumin (weakly).

I have traditionally turned in 3.3% Free Test results. 590ng/dl at 3.3% is 19.47ng of Free Test. 800ng/dl at 2.2% (which would be perfectly normal in a lot of guys) = 17.60ng of Free Test. See my point? You definitely need the well filled up to a decent level, but the area that should be fixated on at the end of the day is the Free & Bio reading. Know that variable and how you feel, and IMO you will be able to manage your program much, much better!! BTW, 16 to 21 on Free Test is a good area where I feel best!

 

[hfbjr]

Interesting very interesting.its like learning a new language

 

[CoastWatcher]

Interesting very interesting.its like learning a new language

All it takes is some time and an interest to become fluent in it. All the best.