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Blood Test Discussion
Finally Got my Full Panel...Way Low Testosterone
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<blockquote data-quote="Vettester Chris" data-source="post: 37291" data-attributes="member: 696"><p>It's only impressive if FT3 is getting into the cells of the body! T4 is the reserves. In a normal, active thyroid, you will see the Reserves (T4) are pretty steady in relation with the active T3, maybe a little higher or to the "Right" using Dr. Rind's scale.</p><p></p><p>Now, this could just easily be a case where the "demand" for T3 is at a higher rate than what can be produced, so essentially T4 is tapping out and trying to keep up. If so, then RT3 levels shouldn't be all that elevated, and some form of T4 or NDT treatment might be a good idea. However, there is a reason why Reverse T3 is part of our bio-mechanical system, and if it's elevated and/or at an unacceptable ratio to FT3, then that's a plain and simple marker noting that something isn't working right, thus prompting a shift in conversion T4 -> RT3. </p><p></p><p>This is one of the great regulation mechanisms in our body. All this taps into ATP & ADP, and how the body utilizes & conserves energy when needed! If Free T3 can't get into the body adequately, it will "pool". That's not me just thinking that's a cool concept, that's factual and it's science. So what's the first sign that someone might be pooling?? Well, in their labs when you see FT3 above the mid range, but FT4 in the tank, that's usually a good time to at least keep it open for discussion. Again, it could easily just be some form of overt hypothyroidism, and demand for T3 is high, but I would generally (not always) anticipate to see both FT4 & FT3 in the lower end of the range. </p><p></p><p>With OP's noted cortisol AM deficiency, this prompts me even more to look down that road (again, that's just science with every single human). As I stated in my post, the "missing link" is Reverse T3 ... Get a Reverse T3 assay and remove that speculation! Also, I would be interested in knowing NSM's body temperature upon waking, and possibly comparing it over a week's time (possibly do a 3x/day average comparison?)??</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vettester Chris, post: 37291, member: 696"] It's only impressive if FT3 is getting into the cells of the body! T4 is the reserves. In a normal, active thyroid, you will see the Reserves (T4) are pretty steady in relation with the active T3, maybe a little higher or to the "Right" using Dr. Rind's scale. Now, this could just easily be a case where the "demand" for T3 is at a higher rate than what can be produced, so essentially T4 is tapping out and trying to keep up. If so, then RT3 levels shouldn't be all that elevated, and some form of T4 or NDT treatment might be a good idea. However, there is a reason why Reverse T3 is part of our bio-mechanical system, and if it's elevated and/or at an unacceptable ratio to FT3, then that's a plain and simple marker noting that something isn't working right, thus prompting a shift in conversion T4 -> RT3. This is one of the great regulation mechanisms in our body. All this taps into ATP & ADP, and how the body utilizes & conserves energy when needed! If Free T3 can't get into the body adequately, it will "pool". That's not me just thinking that's a cool concept, that's factual and it's science. So what's the first sign that someone might be pooling?? Well, in their labs when you see FT3 above the mid range, but FT4 in the tank, that's usually a good time to at least keep it open for discussion. Again, it could easily just be some form of overt hypothyroidism, and demand for T3 is high, but I would generally (not always) anticipate to see both FT4 & FT3 in the lower end of the range. With OP's noted cortisol AM deficiency, this prompts me even more to look down that road (again, that's just science with every single human). As I stated in my post, the "missing link" is Reverse T3 ... Get a Reverse T3 assay and remove that speculation! Also, I would be interested in knowing NSM's body temperature upon waking, and possibly comparing it over a week's time (possibly do a 3x/day average comparison?)?? [/QUOTE]
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