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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Testosterone Side Effect Management
Fatigue, Anxiety, Irritability. Changing protocol, trying to stay on TRT, Help needed
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<blockquote data-quote="madman" data-source="post: 185099" data-attributes="member: 13851"><p>If you are naturally small and tend to have a hard time gaining muscle mass than low-carb (keto/carnivore) is the wrong way to go about as you will never pack on any muscle mass cutting out complex low-gi starchy carbs.</p><p></p><p>Top it off with the fact that your FT levels are low as having healthy testosterone levels is critical to the improvements in body composition one would achieve when following a proper diet/training protocol.</p><p></p><p>Keep in mind that although healthy testosterone levels can lead to improvements in body composition (muscle gain/fat loss) when following a proper diet/training protocol that it will be minor when compared to the muscle/strength gains one would achieve when using steroid doses of T 300-600mg/week.</p><p></p><p>Top it off with the fact that your genetics will have the final say.</p><p></p><p>Jumping on the higher dose (Omnadren) was a bad move and injecting such dose once weekly would have your TT/FT/e2 levels through the roof let alone drive up your RBCs/hemoglobin/hematocrit.</p><p></p><p>Once weekly injections using higher doses of T would result in very high peaks post-injection and much lower levels come weeks end as there will be a big peak---> trough over 7 days and blood levels will not be as stable.</p><p></p><p>As you can see when you lowered your dose to 125mg/week that your peak TT levels were almost 1500 ng/which would be expected and your FT would have also been high.</p><p></p><p>You did not test your RBCs/hemoglobin/hematocrit which would also be elevated.</p><p></p><p>You would have most likely been better off dropping your dose down to 100 mg/week split twice weekly (50 mg every 3.5 days) instead of jumping on EOD as your SHBG is still on the higher end.</p><p></p><p>One critical thing that stands out is you never had a full thyroid panel done as healthy functioning thyroid/adrenals are critical and many of the symptoms of a dysfunctional thyroid can mimic low-t.</p><p></p><p>The best piece of advice is to start low and go slow with a T only protocol to see how your body reacts to said protocol (dose of T/injection frequency) and always follow up with blood work which is critical!</p><p></p><p>Not sure if daily prop would be the best move and keep in mind that injectable esterified T will never mimic the natural 24hr circadian rhythm of a healthy young male.</p><p></p><p>From a previous post in another thread, I responded to:</p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">During the 24hr circadian rhythm of a healthy young male testosterone level will start to increase around 3-4 am reaching peak levels between 6-8 am and by 11-12 pm will start to decline late afternoon/early evening reaching trough between 6-8 pm.</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)"></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">Fluctuations from peak--->trough would be around 20-25%.</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)"></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">When using exogenous testosterone whether injecting daily/EOD/M/W/F, twice weekly (every 3.5 days) or once weekly although there will be a big difference n peak--->trough levels depending on the injection frequency chosen you would never mimic the natural 24hr circadian rhythm of a healthy young male.</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)"></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">Injections result in steady-state let alone most are forcing testosterone levels upon themselves which one could never produce naturally as many are running very high TT/FT levels 24/7 and you would be amazed at what these levels are at a trough.</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)"></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">Top it off with the fact that your hpta is SHUTDOWN.</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)"></span></p><p> <span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="madman, post: 185099, member: 13851"] If you are naturally small and tend to have a hard time gaining muscle mass than low-carb (keto/carnivore) is the wrong way to go about as you will never pack on any muscle mass cutting out complex low-gi starchy carbs. Top it off with the fact that your FT levels are low as having healthy testosterone levels is critical to the improvements in body composition one would achieve when following a proper diet/training protocol. Keep in mind that although healthy testosterone levels can lead to improvements in body composition (muscle gain/fat loss) when following a proper diet/training protocol that it will be minor when compared to the muscle/strength gains one would achieve when using steroid doses of T 300-600mg/week. Top it off with the fact that your genetics will have the final say. Jumping on the higher dose (Omnadren) was a bad move and injecting such dose once weekly would have your TT/FT/e2 levels through the roof let alone drive up your RBCs/hemoglobin/hematocrit. Once weekly injections using higher doses of T would result in very high peaks post-injection and much lower levels come weeks end as there will be a big peak---> trough over 7 days and blood levels will not be as stable. As you can see when you lowered your dose to 125mg/week that your peak TT levels were almost 1500 ng/which would be expected and your FT would have also been high. You did not test your RBCs/hemoglobin/hematocrit which would also be elevated. You would have most likely been better off dropping your dose down to 100 mg/week split twice weekly (50 mg every 3.5 days) instead of jumping on EOD as your SHBG is still on the higher end. One critical thing that stands out is you never had a full thyroid panel done as healthy functioning thyroid/adrenals are critical and many of the symptoms of a dysfunctional thyroid can mimic low-t. The best piece of advice is to start low and go slow with a T only protocol to see how your body reacts to said protocol (dose of T/injection frequency) and always follow up with blood work which is critical! Not sure if daily prop would be the best move and keep in mind that injectable esterified T will never mimic the natural 24hr circadian rhythm of a healthy young male. From a previous post in another thread, I responded to: [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]During the 24hr circadian rhythm of a healthy young male testosterone level will start to increase around 3-4 am reaching peak levels between 6-8 am and by 11-12 pm will start to decline late afternoon/early evening reaching trough between 6-8 pm. Fluctuations from peak--->trough would be around 20-25%. When using exogenous testosterone whether injecting daily/EOD/M/W/F, twice weekly (every 3.5 days) or once weekly although there will be a big difference n peak--->trough levels depending on the injection frequency chosen you would never mimic the natural 24hr circadian rhythm of a healthy young male. Injections result in steady-state let alone most are forcing testosterone levels upon themselves which one could never produce naturally as many are running very high TT/FT levels 24/7 and you would be amazed at what these levels are at a trough. Top it off with the fact that your hpta is SHUTDOWN. [/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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