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Estradiol being essential is a given and ND only could never provide such.

No one is saying more is better but healthy amounts of estradiol are needed in men.

You will always be bigger/stronger on Test!

Again T and high e2 any day.

Would never waste my time on low dose test with ND let alone ND only.

Much more going on than simply estradiol and water retention.

It appears that reasons go beyond the simple size, weight, and strength increases that one would attribute to estrogen-related water retention, with this hormone actually having a direct effect on the process of anabolism. This is manifest through increases in glucose utilization, growth hormone secretion, and androgen receptor proliferation.

<blockquote data-quote="madman" data-source="post: 184190" data-attributes="member: 13851">Estradiol being essential is a given and ND only could never provide such.No one is saying more is better but healthy amounts of estradiol are needed in men.You will always be bigger/stronger on Test!Again T and high e2 any day.Would never waste my time on low dose test with ND let alone ND only.Much more going on than simply estradiol and water retention.It appears that reasons go beyond the simple size, weight, and strength increases that one would attribute to estrogen-related water retention, with this hormone actually having a direct effect on the process of anabolism. This is manifest through increases in glucose utilization, growth hormone secretion, and androgen receptor proliferation.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="madman, post: 184190, member: 13851"] Estradiol being essential is a given and ND only could never provide such. No one is saying more is better but healthy amounts of estradiol are needed in men. You will always be bigger/stronger on Test! Again T and high e2 any day. Would never waste my time on low dose test with ND let alone ND only. Much more going on than simply estradiol and water retention. [B][U][I]It appears that reasons go beyond the simple size, weight, and strength increases that one would attribute to estrogen-related water retention,[COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)] with this hormone actually having a direct effect on the process of anabolism. This is manifest through increases in glucose utilization, growth hormone secretion, and androgen receptor proliferation.[/COLOR][/I][/U][/B][COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)] [/COLOR] [/QUOTE]

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Understanding Your Hormones

Estradiol (E2)

A form of estrogen produced from testosterone. Important for bone health, mood, and libido. Too high can cause side effects; too low can affect well-being.

DHT

Dihydrotestosterone is a potent androgen derived from testosterone. Affects hair growth, prostate health, and masculinization effects.

Free Testosterone

The biologically active form of testosterone not bound to proteins. Directly available for cellular uptake and biological effects.

Scientific Reference

Lakshman KM, Kaplan B, Travison TG, Basaria S, Knapp PE, Singh AB, LaValley MP, Mazer NA, Bhasin S. The effects of injected testosterone dose and age on the conversion of testosterone to estradiol and dihydrotestosterone in young and older men. J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2010 Aug;95(8):3955-64.

DOI: 10.1210/jc.2010-0102 | PMID: 20534765 | PMCID: PMC2913038