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Estradiol being essential is a given and ND only could never provide such.


No one is saying more is better but healthy amounts of estradiol are needed in men.


You will always be bigger/stronger on Test!


Again T and high e2 any day.


Would never waste my time on low dose test with ND let alone ND only.


Much more going on than simply estradiol and water retention.






It appears that reasons go beyond the simple size, weight, and strength increases that one would attribute to estrogen-related water retention, with this hormone actually having a direct effect on the process of anabolism. This is manifest through increases in glucose utilization, growth hormone secretion, and androgen receptor proliferation.


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