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Enclomiphene - Dose / Frequency / Follow Up Labs?
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<blockquote data-quote="ResearchIt" data-source="post: 225725" data-attributes="member: 43366"><p>aneuman, thanks for your reply, very helpful. It sounds like our symptoms and goals are similar. Also, if you are "the" Alfred Neuman, I have been a long time fan lol <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I am about 10 days into my enclomiphene trial. My plan is to try it for 2 or 3 months to see if it increases my Free T and helps with symptoms. If not, I will discontinue using it. It's too bad it didn't provide symptom relief for you - I read that is quite common. It hasn't really for me either, but I am only 10 days in. I am keeping my fingers crossed but expectations reserved.</p><p></p><p>I agree, my T levels and other labs are not bad at all, in fact I have levels that many people target or would hope to have, but the symptoms are real unfortunately. They are definitely not psychological. Like you, I would prefer not to take enclomiphene or anything else for that matter and I am also concerned about the other known and unknown effects it has. But also, like you said, there is that desire to do something about symptoms, albeit very carefully, so here I am <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I have gotten many many labs and tests done to have a solid data set to work with. I have a few more imaging tests to go. Recently I have started talking with some specialists in this area. I want to talk with many of them to make sure I collect all the good advice and hopefully actually discover what changed in me.</p><p></p><p>While science and medicine have come a long way in the last 10 or 15 years, what I am afraid of is that specialists today still really don't know the aging mechanisms in the male body well enough to identify what actually changes that causes these symptoms and what approach to take to correct them without causing other problems. I know it's complex, but I am surprised that men in science and medicine haven't figured this out already, given how important it is to them.</p><p></p><p></p><p>This is the most frustrating aspect of trying to "fix things". A few approaches I tried have helped short term, but then the body seems to not let changes I introduce have an enduring effect. Instead the body adjusts to counteract what I do so that it can maintain it's new crappy homeostasis target that it has switched to for me.</p><p></p><p></p><p>That is interesting how HCG worked so well in every area that most of us are trying to improve. Too bad it's effects are short lived.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, that would be great if you could include your labs here on the thread. I am going to post my before and after labs here in about 4 weeks as well as provide a symptom update and any other information that might be useful to others.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ResearchIt, post: 225725, member: 43366"] aneuman, thanks for your reply, very helpful. It sounds like our symptoms and goals are similar. Also, if you are "the" Alfred Neuman, I have been a long time fan lol :) I am about 10 days into my enclomiphene trial. My plan is to try it for 2 or 3 months to see if it increases my Free T and helps with symptoms. If not, I will discontinue using it. It's too bad it didn't provide symptom relief for you - I read that is quite common. It hasn't really for me either, but I am only 10 days in. I am keeping my fingers crossed but expectations reserved. I agree, my T levels and other labs are not bad at all, in fact I have levels that many people target or would hope to have, but the symptoms are real unfortunately. They are definitely not psychological. Like you, I would prefer not to take enclomiphene or anything else for that matter and I am also concerned about the other known and unknown effects it has. But also, like you said, there is that desire to do something about symptoms, albeit very carefully, so here I am :) I have gotten many many labs and tests done to have a solid data set to work with. I have a few more imaging tests to go. Recently I have started talking with some specialists in this area. I want to talk with many of them to make sure I collect all the good advice and hopefully actually discover what changed in me. While science and medicine have come a long way in the last 10 or 15 years, what I am afraid of is that specialists today still really don't know the aging mechanisms in the male body well enough to identify what actually changes that causes these symptoms and what approach to take to correct them without causing other problems. I know it's complex, but I am surprised that men in science and medicine haven't figured this out already, given how important it is to them. This is the most frustrating aspect of trying to "fix things". A few approaches I tried have helped short term, but then the body seems to not let changes I introduce have an enduring effect. Instead the body adjusts to counteract what I do so that it can maintain it's new crappy homeostasis target that it has switched to for me. That is interesting how HCG worked so well in every area that most of us are trying to improve. Too bad it's effects are short lived. Yes, that would be great if you could include your labs here on the thread. I am going to post my before and after labs here in about 4 weeks as well as provide a symptom update and any other information that might be useful to others. [/QUOTE]
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