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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Testosterone Basics & Questions
ED with Enclomiphene and HCG
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<blockquote data-quote="aneuman" data-source="post: 258243" data-attributes="member: 43264"><p>I guess this is absolutely a possibility, which can happen with Clomid alone, by the way.</p><p></p><p>When I was on enclomiphene monotherapy ar 12.5 mg/day, after 3 months my LH was 20.8mIU/mL (range:1.5 - 9.3), however, when I was using Enclomiohene 12.4 + HCG 300 IU M-W-F-S, my LH was 2.7 IU/mL. Switching to Enclomiphene mono therapy alone, this time 12.5 mg M-F-S put my LH at 9.3</p><p></p><p>FWIW, neither my urologist or my PCP showed any concerns regarding LH at very high levels. I have my doubts.</p><p></p><p>But I get your point, even though SERM + HCG produced a lower LH <strong><em>labs</em></strong> <strong><em>levels</em></strong> than SERM alone, the labs were only searching for LH, not HCG, which mimics the effects in the body of LH, so the actual phuysiological effect was that of much higher equivalent LH, which I agree, could create unwanted and unknown risks, including Alzheimer's, although the link is not clear.</p><p></p><p></p><p>An this is one of the reasons I decided to switch to TRT. At least with T, we know where the effect is being produced, and we can manipulate the amount we put it, which SERMS and hCG, there are a lot of unknowns, particularly long term.</p><p></p><p>Granted, exogenous T may have influence in the hormone cascade that we don't understand yet</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Agree as well. My urologist is treating someone I know for Low T, but been much younger than me, he wants to preserve fertility, so he puts him on Clomid 50 mg every day. His LHis at 9.x but his FSH is past 20. When my friend showed concern about the value he replied: "<em>that's where we like it to be</em>"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="aneuman, post: 258243, member: 43264"] I guess this is absolutely a possibility, which can happen with Clomid alone, by the way. When I was on enclomiphene monotherapy ar 12.5 mg/day, after 3 months my LH was 20.8mIU/mL (range:1.5 - 9.3), however, when I was using Enclomiohene 12.4 + HCG 300 IU M-W-F-S, my LH was 2.7 IU/mL. Switching to Enclomiphene mono therapy alone, this time 12.5 mg M-F-S put my LH at 9.3 FWIW, neither my urologist or my PCP showed any concerns regarding LH at very high levels. I have my doubts. But I get your point, even though SERM + HCG produced a lower LH [B][I]labs[/I][/B] [B][I]levels[/I][/B] than SERM alone, the labs were only searching for LH, not HCG, which mimics the effects in the body of LH, so the actual phuysiological effect was that of much higher equivalent LH, which I agree, could create unwanted and unknown risks, including Alzheimer's, although the link is not clear. An this is one of the reasons I decided to switch to TRT. At least with T, we know where the effect is being produced, and we can manipulate the amount we put it, which SERMS and hCG, there are a lot of unknowns, particularly long term. Granted, exogenous T may have influence in the hormone cascade that we don't understand yet Agree as well. My urologist is treating someone I know for Low T, but been much younger than me, he wants to preserve fertility, so he puts him on Clomid 50 mg every day. His LHis at 9.x but his FSH is past 20. When my friend showed concern about the value he replied: "[I]that's where we like it to be[/I]" [/QUOTE]
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