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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Clomid for PCT, fertility or low T
Dosing clomid two or three times daily
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<blockquote data-quote="Insight35" data-source="post: 161949" data-attributes="member: 17345"><p>I have read some opinions that the zuclomiphene ester somehow makes the hpta more sensitive though admittetly if that is true, we need to to know how much is too much.</p><p></p><p>The guys taking clomid are usually doing this to preserve fertility. Its either using a serm like clomid or doing trt with hcg. No other way possible.</p><p></p><p>I would agree that a too high level of LH chronically is not a good idea, but do people on low dosages of clomid have hgher than normal LH and FSH levels?</p><p></p><p>Another thing is that people that are secondary have either lowish LH and/or FSH OR their bodies dont respond adequately to the LH/FSH signal. An increased LH and FSH might correct this.</p><p></p><p>Besides a too high estrogen can be tackled with adex.</p><p></p><p>Like I wrote before, clomid is definitely not a perfect drug. A lot of young patients will still try it. Might as well keep the dosage as low as possible and take it three times daily to keep the enclomiphene level stable.</p><p></p><p>Well Androxal, pure enclomiphene is not available unfortunately legally. Androxal had no zuclomiphene and therefore comparing it to clomid is somewhat comparing apples to oranges. I do get your point about the effectiveness of androxal which was only taken once daily. Remember that people taking clomid often have quite good levels of testosterone yet they don't feel well. Perhaps by keeping the enclomiphene level stable, there is antagonism with the zuclomiphene.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Insight35, post: 161949, member: 17345"] I have read some opinions that the zuclomiphene ester somehow makes the hpta more sensitive though admittetly if that is true, we need to to know how much is too much. The guys taking clomid are usually doing this to preserve fertility. Its either using a serm like clomid or doing trt with hcg. No other way possible. I would agree that a too high level of LH chronically is not a good idea, but do people on low dosages of clomid have hgher than normal LH and FSH levels? Another thing is that people that are secondary have either lowish LH and/or FSH OR their bodies dont respond adequately to the LH/FSH signal. An increased LH and FSH might correct this. Besides a too high estrogen can be tackled with adex. Like I wrote before, clomid is definitely not a perfect drug. A lot of young patients will still try it. Might as well keep the dosage as low as possible and take it three times daily to keep the enclomiphene level stable. Well Androxal, pure enclomiphene is not available unfortunately legally. Androxal had no zuclomiphene and therefore comparing it to clomid is somewhat comparing apples to oranges. I do get your point about the effectiveness of androxal which was only taken once daily. Remember that people taking clomid often have quite good levels of testosterone yet they don't feel well. Perhaps by keeping the enclomiphene level stable, there is antagonism with the zuclomiphene. [/QUOTE]
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Clomid for PCT, fertility or low T
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