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Thyroid, Pregnenolone, Progesterone, DHEA, etc
Thyroid, DHEA, Pregnenolone, Progesterone, etc
Does Testosterone Replacement Affect the Thyroid?
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<blockquote data-quote="cyclingwolf" data-source="post: 59481" data-attributes="member: 14820"><p>I've been on TRT since May of 2015. My previous doctors and I do not see eye to eye at all on any issue. And due to their idiocy I've been to a few different ones &#8211; that's another story.</p><p>A tad bit of past info &#8211; the 2 years before I started T, I went from cycling centuries and gym workouts to barely making it out of bed and to work when we found my T low. I suffered brain fog and memory problems, actually developed mild dyslexia with numbers, as well as weight gain, ED and no libido. If my wife hadn't been on me about not loving her and wanting me to ask my doctor about why I didn't want sex or have erections I may never have found out. And after the past 18 months of no warnings, misinformation, improper TRT, e2 management and hypo symptoms, I wish I never did or refused the therapy from the start.</p><p></p><p>Since starting TRT, I've had all the classic symptoms of hypothyroid, and these lab results look like hypo to me and all the research I've been able to do. But the last endo quack I saw said and I quote “T3, Ft3, Ft4 and T4 don't mean anything if TSH is in range”. </p><p>My first doctor didn't test anything else when TSH came back in the upper normal range. On the same labs we found T low and he started TRT. More labs would have been nice, but by all looks - Yes TRT drove me Hypo.</p><p>before TRT</p><p>Tsh - 2.26</p><p></p><p>3 months of TRT (August &#8216;15)(and different doctor) </p><p></p><p>Tsh - .86 (.45-2.5)</p><p>Ft3 - 2.89 (1.71-3.71)</p><p>Ft4 - .96 (.7-1.48)</p><p>T4 - 5.2 (4.87-11.72)</p><p></p><p>January of '16</p><p></p><p>Tsh - 1.76</p><p>Ft3 - 3.51</p><p>Ft4 - .83</p><p>T4 - .42</p><p></p><p>April '16 (didn't test anything else)</p><p></p><p>Tsh - 1.7</p><p></p><p>another doctor in November started me on HCG (and is currently helping me try to get off T, as pituitary mri results are negative)</p><p></p><p>December '16</p><p></p><p>Tsh - 1.16</p><p>Ft4 - 1.9</p><p>T4 - 5.8</p><p></p><p>TRT made me hypothyroid, thats the way it looks and has felt. I'll get more labs in 2 months and ill know for sure if everything straightens itself out. This is week three off of testosterone. I've got 2 weeks before i stop HCG and then its up to Serm's and my body to either come back or fail. My hopes are high as i have felt progressively better the past few weeks, which means HCG therapy has my body producing testosterone again or I'd have had a hard crash by now. </p><p></p><p>Anyway that's my story and labs. hope it helps someone or brings more thought into this kind of therapy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cyclingwolf, post: 59481, member: 14820"] I've been on TRT since May of 2015. My previous doctors and I do not see eye to eye at all on any issue. And due to their idiocy I've been to a few different ones – that's another story. A tad bit of past info – the 2 years before I started T, I went from cycling centuries and gym workouts to barely making it out of bed and to work when we found my T low. I suffered brain fog and memory problems, actually developed mild dyslexia with numbers, as well as weight gain, ED and no libido. If my wife hadn't been on me about not loving her and wanting me to ask my doctor about why I didn't want sex or have erections I may never have found out. And after the past 18 months of no warnings, misinformation, improper TRT, e2 management and hypo symptoms, I wish I never did or refused the therapy from the start. Since starting TRT, I've had all the classic symptoms of hypothyroid, and these lab results look like hypo to me and all the research I've been able to do. But the last endo quack I saw said and I quote “T3, Ft3, Ft4 and T4 don't mean anything if TSH is in range”. My first doctor didn't test anything else when TSH came back in the upper normal range. On the same labs we found T low and he started TRT. More labs would have been nice, but by all looks - Yes TRT drove me Hypo. before TRT Tsh - 2.26 3 months of TRT (August ‘15)(and different doctor) Tsh - .86 (.45-2.5) Ft3 - 2.89 (1.71-3.71) Ft4 - .96 (.7-1.48) T4 - 5.2 (4.87-11.72) January of '16 Tsh - 1.76 Ft3 - 3.51 Ft4 - .83 T4 - .42 April '16 (didn't test anything else) Tsh - 1.7 another doctor in November started me on HCG (and is currently helping me try to get off T, as pituitary mri results are negative) December '16 Tsh - 1.16 Ft4 - 1.9 T4 - 5.8 TRT made me hypothyroid, thats the way it looks and has felt. I'll get more labs in 2 months and ill know for sure if everything straightens itself out. This is week three off of testosterone. I've got 2 weeks before i stop HCG and then its up to Serm's and my body to either come back or fail. My hopes are high as i have felt progressively better the past few weeks, which means HCG therapy has my body producing testosterone again or I'd have had a hard crash by now. Anyway that's my story and labs. hope it helps someone or brings more thought into this kind of therapy. [/QUOTE]
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Does Testosterone Replacement Affect the Thyroid?
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