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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Testosterone Side Effect Management
Does semen volume ever come back? I’ve been off TRT since February, and I still just have drops that come out:(
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<blockquote data-quote="Simbarn" data-source="post: 243922" data-attributes="member: 44021"><p>" On the other hand the majority of the semen volume is produced by the seminal vesicles, which is regulated by androgens and not gonadotropins"</p><p></p><p>Very interesting. I am always open to more hypothesis on these topics. Yes, androgens must play a very important role in the development and continued function of these sexual glands as they do the tissues in the penis. Yes, I know of guys on finasteride who experience this and who have normal hormone function otherwise. The loss of DHT must affect this.</p><p>Could it be that it is the whole gamut that is responsible for this, not just androgens?</p><p>Remove gonadotropins and there will be a loss, or remove androgens and there will be a loss of semen volume. It could be after a period of time, many months perhaps that the loss of gonadotropins has this effect, it may not be immediate.</p><p>True, there are "guys shooting small loads" on FSH and hCG, however, this could be for many reasons; these combined are not identical to our natural hormones or produced in the same pulsatile manner. What effect could hCG be having on these glands, as not all men tolerate this compound very well? What occurred to these individuals before using these drugs? Have the seminal vesicles been damaged due to past atrophy, or hormone disruption?</p><p>I also wonder what would happen to "these guys who shoot big loads" on large doses of androgens, after 12 months or more on extended steroid courses? I highly doubt this would continue.</p><p>It could be that Proviron does indeed stimulate these glands even in the absence of gonadotropins in some men via another pathway. Does it work for all men in this manner? </p><p></p><p>From my own personal experience, after being on testosterone, it was evident that my DHT levels rose considerably, as I lost my hair and grew substantial amounts of body hair, that I have since had removed by laser hair reduction. My semen parameters did nothing but decline to almost zero after many months, this was not immediate.</p><p>They returned somewhat after the use of hCG, which clearly says to me that gonadotropins play a role here, possibly a substantial one. It was also evident to me that the increase I had of DHT, did not help preserve my seminal fluid amount that I had pre-TRT.</p><p>The times I ceased TRT and let my body regain natural function at much lower levels of androgens, my semen levels increased to almost pre TRT levels after 4-6 months.</p><p>This does not seem consistent with your hypothesis.</p><p>I am tempted to think it is much more complex than just androgens or gonadotropins, specifically.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Simbarn, post: 243922, member: 44021"] " On the other hand the majority of the semen volume is produced by the seminal vesicles, which is regulated by androgens and not gonadotropins" Very interesting. I am always open to more hypothesis on these topics. Yes, androgens must play a very important role in the development and continued function of these sexual glands as they do the tissues in the penis. Yes, I know of guys on finasteride who experience this and who have normal hormone function otherwise. The loss of DHT must affect this. Could it be that it is the whole gamut that is responsible for this, not just androgens? Remove gonadotropins and there will be a loss, or remove androgens and there will be a loss of semen volume. It could be after a period of time, many months perhaps that the loss of gonadotropins has this effect, it may not be immediate. True, there are "guys shooting small loads" on FSH and hCG, however, this could be for many reasons; these combined are not identical to our natural hormones or produced in the same pulsatile manner. What effect could hCG be having on these glands, as not all men tolerate this compound very well? What occurred to these individuals before using these drugs? Have the seminal vesicles been damaged due to past atrophy, or hormone disruption? I also wonder what would happen to "these guys who shoot big loads" on large doses of androgens, after 12 months or more on extended steroid courses? I highly doubt this would continue. It could be that Proviron does indeed stimulate these glands even in the absence of gonadotropins in some men via another pathway. Does it work for all men in this manner? From my own personal experience, after being on testosterone, it was evident that my DHT levels rose considerably, as I lost my hair and grew substantial amounts of body hair, that I have since had removed by laser hair reduction. My semen parameters did nothing but decline to almost zero after many months, this was not immediate. They returned somewhat after the use of hCG, which clearly says to me that gonadotropins play a role here, possibly a substantial one. It was also evident to me that the increase I had of DHT, did not help preserve my seminal fluid amount that I had pre-TRT. The times I ceased TRT and let my body regain natural function at much lower levels of androgens, my semen levels increased to almost pre TRT levels after 4-6 months. This does not seem consistent with your hypothesis. I am tempted to think it is much more complex than just androgens or gonadotropins, specifically. [/QUOTE]
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