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Does Anyone Lose Sensitivity While Taking An ED Drug?
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<blockquote data-quote="Stpfan" data-source="post: 264026" data-attributes="member: 39333"><p>Been on TRT 4.5 years. I have tried numerous protocols to get EVERYTHING working properly... Sexual function and also an ambitious mind. It seems like when I have a lively mind... I don't desire sex.... when I lose ambition and focus... I want sex more... but the electricity and plumbing never work together.</p><p></p><p>How should I word this?</p><p></p><p>I'm currently experiencing a major loss in sensitivity while taking 100mg of Viagra. It's the worst severely noticeable difference ever in my life. It's so bad... that I can't even stay hard while on Viagra. Also playing with my mind a bit and it's annoying. Before anyone jumps in and says show us labs... oh it's how much Test cyp you're taking a week. Oh wait... its definitely your E2. Oh wait... your RBC is definitely too high. Because not to sound rude we're aren't doctors nor do even doctors know everything either. Point being... when is it actual depression... and what drug will help with ED? Now don't get me wrong... I've read a few threads indicating that some depression medication actually can cause ED. But is there anything out there... that would actually help? Or will it help for 2-3 weeks and then start to fail? And then you have to live life dependent on depression meds? Which I don't want. Here's what I do know... and I apologize if this thread gets long...</p><p></p><p>1. Protocol 1. Taking 140mg of Test Cyp. I've taken 70 mg every 3.5 days for about 4 months. I've also taken 40mg every other day for about 4 months. I would say mentally my mind is super strong. I can process things quickly and I have a zest for life. My Free Test would be considered mid normal slightly approaching into the above normal range on most labs. My sexual function would be considered poor. Not really any desire for sex. Really couldn't maintain an erection. Viagra sometimes works. But again... my real concern is zero sensitivity. I have to donate blood almost every 58 days on this plan. Yes, it sucks. And its very hard to manage iron levels. I seem to be ok 10 days after donation... back to normal. I have tried this without an AI for 4 months and also with an AI. Had the E2 dialed in 3 different labs ranging from 20-32. During this time... as I remember the sensitivity wasn't spectacular. Still annoying and not where I'd like it to be. The only good news is... my mind was razor sharp and very alert.</p><p></p><p>2. I've taken 120 mg of test cyp a week for about 4 months. I've taken 100 mg of test cyp for 4 months. Also 82 mg of test cyp for 4 months. You'd think I would still be more mentally alert while lowering the dosage? I lose ambition... I get brain fog. And no real interest in sex. Yes, RBC is much more manageable. But I walked around like a zombie during this period. Furthermore, while talking around 82mg of Test Cyp a week my low point Test Score was 456. Typically when I'm taking around 140mg a week my Test Score (low point) is about 1002. I would imagine my high point would be around 1400-1500.</p><p></p><p>Why is there much more mental clarity with higher dosages of Test Cyp? I just feel much more LIVELY! If there was a way to keep my mental rate and zest for life the way it is now... on a lower dose of Test Cyp... I would do it in a heartbeat. What other drugs could you take? Why are my doctors not looking into this? I have stressed this to my PCP and my Endo several times... and they look at me crazy. All they do is laugh at me and say... just understand you're getting "older" it happens. Learn to enjoy being older. That's what they say to me.</p><p></p><p>Keep in mind at around 38 years old I noticed an ED problem. I had no idea I had low testosterone. My score checked in at 195. I was retested and it came in at 203. While this was happening... I couldn't concentrate on one thing for more than 5 minutes. I was irritable. I'd lose focus within minutes. Even though testosterone levels have been restored... the ED never went away. Feels like it's worse. My PCP hinted that I was depressed. I don't feel I have anything to be depressed about. My doctor prescribed me Escitalopram 5mg once a day. She said just take it for 2 weeks and see if you feel better. I never took it... and it's still sitting in front of me 3 years later. If I took this drug would it have fixed my ED issue? Or would have my life became worse?</p><p></p><p>A quick run down of my medical history... I have tried oral steroids on and off for about 4 years of my life. Nothing too extreme... 10-20 mg everyday of different substances... on for 8 weeks... and then off. Then I'd start again 6 months later... and do another 8 weeks. Sometimes it would just be for 3-4 weeks. Then I'd come off. Typically sex was amazing while taking the oral steroids. Sensitivity was perfect. Solid erections. Incredible horniness. Could have sex quickly... and reload with no issues... this was back when I was 32-34. Again... did an oral steroid cycle around 37... got off.... and it took 4 months for me to feel "regular" again. That's when the sh## hit the fan. I never fully recovered. I had no idea I was extremely low on Testosterone. Never used any pain killers... non smoker my whole life... no other recreational drugs... average like 2-3 drinks of alcohol a year. Never diagnosed with any anxiety disorder... nothing. Typically a very calm demeanor.</p><p></p><p>So fellas... what could be the issue? Any ideas? What should I look into? I have tried HCG... I've tried 250IU the day after a test injection... I have also tried 500IU the day after an injection... basically 500-1000IU's a week... For the first 2-3 injections.. there's a noticeable difference in sensitivity... but then... after about 2-3 weeks the sensitivity is lost. Doesn't work anymore. Like I get immune to the HCG just like that? Odd. I truly believe once you lose your sexual confidence... it also becomes a "mental game" and you start losing confidence in your ability. It's like a double edged sword. You now have to fix the sexual function physically... and the sexual function "mentally".... I would of never believed it... but it's the truth. It plays with your mind.</p><p></p><p>I want to give Nelson Vergel a shout out.... absolute fantastic work in developing this website and all the posts that he makes that direct you to an easy solution to multiple problems. Unfortunately... I believe I fall into a category in which I have a more severe issue. I wish it was an easy fix... but in my case it isn't. I'm very thankful that my mind still works well. It wasn't working well when my testosterone was low. Even though I've lost the desire for sex.... I'm happy that life isn't totally lost... and my mind still works rather well. Again, I can't reemphasize enough... that in my case... lower mg of testosterone injections a week does something mentally to me. I simply can't function. Makes me a lot slower. If there was a way to have an amazing sex life... and a high capacity mind again (both together...) it would be priceless. That feeling of being 18-22 again.... I definitely took it for granted.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stpfan, post: 264026, member: 39333"] Been on TRT 4.5 years. I have tried numerous protocols to get EVERYTHING working properly... Sexual function and also an ambitious mind. It seems like when I have a lively mind... I don't desire sex.... when I lose ambition and focus... I want sex more... but the electricity and plumbing never work together. How should I word this? I'm currently experiencing a major loss in sensitivity while taking 100mg of Viagra. It's the worst severely noticeable difference ever in my life. It's so bad... that I can't even stay hard while on Viagra. Also playing with my mind a bit and it's annoying. Before anyone jumps in and says show us labs... oh it's how much Test cyp you're taking a week. Oh wait... its definitely your E2. Oh wait... your RBC is definitely too high. Because not to sound rude we're aren't doctors nor do even doctors know everything either. Point being... when is it actual depression... and what drug will help with ED? Now don't get me wrong... I've read a few threads indicating that some depression medication actually can cause ED. But is there anything out there... that would actually help? Or will it help for 2-3 weeks and then start to fail? And then you have to live life dependent on depression meds? Which I don't want. Here's what I do know... and I apologize if this thread gets long... 1. Protocol 1. Taking 140mg of Test Cyp. I've taken 70 mg every 3.5 days for about 4 months. I've also taken 40mg every other day for about 4 months. I would say mentally my mind is super strong. I can process things quickly and I have a zest for life. My Free Test would be considered mid normal slightly approaching into the above normal range on most labs. My sexual function would be considered poor. Not really any desire for sex. Really couldn't maintain an erection. Viagra sometimes works. But again... my real concern is zero sensitivity. I have to donate blood almost every 58 days on this plan. Yes, it sucks. And its very hard to manage iron levels. I seem to be ok 10 days after donation... back to normal. I have tried this without an AI for 4 months and also with an AI. Had the E2 dialed in 3 different labs ranging from 20-32. During this time... as I remember the sensitivity wasn't spectacular. Still annoying and not where I'd like it to be. The only good news is... my mind was razor sharp and very alert. 2. I've taken 120 mg of test cyp a week for about 4 months. I've taken 100 mg of test cyp for 4 months. Also 82 mg of test cyp for 4 months. You'd think I would still be more mentally alert while lowering the dosage? I lose ambition... I get brain fog. And no real interest in sex. Yes, RBC is much more manageable. But I walked around like a zombie during this period. Furthermore, while talking around 82mg of Test Cyp a week my low point Test Score was 456. Typically when I'm taking around 140mg a week my Test Score (low point) is about 1002. I would imagine my high point would be around 1400-1500. Why is there much more mental clarity with higher dosages of Test Cyp? I just feel much more LIVELY! If there was a way to keep my mental rate and zest for life the way it is now... on a lower dose of Test Cyp... I would do it in a heartbeat. What other drugs could you take? Why are my doctors not looking into this? I have stressed this to my PCP and my Endo several times... and they look at me crazy. All they do is laugh at me and say... just understand you're getting "older" it happens. Learn to enjoy being older. That's what they say to me. Keep in mind at around 38 years old I noticed an ED problem. I had no idea I had low testosterone. My score checked in at 195. I was retested and it came in at 203. While this was happening... I couldn't concentrate on one thing for more than 5 minutes. I was irritable. I'd lose focus within minutes. Even though testosterone levels have been restored... the ED never went away. Feels like it's worse. My PCP hinted that I was depressed. I don't feel I have anything to be depressed about. My doctor prescribed me Escitalopram 5mg once a day. She said just take it for 2 weeks and see if you feel better. I never took it... and it's still sitting in front of me 3 years later. If I took this drug would it have fixed my ED issue? Or would have my life became worse? A quick run down of my medical history... I have tried oral steroids on and off for about 4 years of my life. Nothing too extreme... 10-20 mg everyday of different substances... on for 8 weeks... and then off. Then I'd start again 6 months later... and do another 8 weeks. Sometimes it would just be for 3-4 weeks. Then I'd come off. Typically sex was amazing while taking the oral steroids. Sensitivity was perfect. Solid erections. Incredible horniness. Could have sex quickly... and reload with no issues... this was back when I was 32-34. Again... did an oral steroid cycle around 37... got off.... and it took 4 months for me to feel "regular" again. That's when the sh## hit the fan. I never fully recovered. I had no idea I was extremely low on Testosterone. Never used any pain killers... non smoker my whole life... no other recreational drugs... average like 2-3 drinks of alcohol a year. Never diagnosed with any anxiety disorder... nothing. Typically a very calm demeanor. So fellas... what could be the issue? Any ideas? What should I look into? I have tried HCG... I've tried 250IU the day after a test injection... I have also tried 500IU the day after an injection... basically 500-1000IU's a week... For the first 2-3 injections.. there's a noticeable difference in sensitivity... but then... after about 2-3 weeks the sensitivity is lost. Doesn't work anymore. Like I get immune to the HCG just like that? Odd. I truly believe once you lose your sexual confidence... it also becomes a "mental game" and you start losing confidence in your ability. It's like a double edged sword. You now have to fix the sexual function physically... and the sexual function "mentally".... I would of never believed it... but it's the truth. It plays with your mind. I want to give Nelson Vergel a shout out.... absolute fantastic work in developing this website and all the posts that he makes that direct you to an easy solution to multiple problems. Unfortunately... I believe I fall into a category in which I have a more severe issue. I wish it was an easy fix... but in my case it isn't. I'm very thankful that my mind still works well. It wasn't working well when my testosterone was low. Even though I've lost the desire for sex.... I'm happy that life isn't totally lost... and my mind still works rather well. Again, I can't reemphasize enough... that in my case... lower mg of testosterone injections a week does something mentally to me. I simply can't function. Makes me a lot slower. If there was a way to have an amazing sex life... and a high capacity mind again (both together...) it would be priceless. That feeling of being 18-22 again.... I definitely took it for granted. [/QUOTE]
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