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<blockquote data-quote="pqteb1r" data-source="post: 175119" data-attributes="member: 19419"><p>Not true. There is no scientific consensus that patient 0 was infected at the seafood market. Claiming it is so is politically motivated. </p><p></p><p>Cherry-picking studies in an attempt to prove a point is contrary to the theme of this forum. The origin of SARS-CoV-2 can not be approached in the same way that the benefits of a supplement can simply because it is not possible to dismiss the reality of political agendas bio-weapon research, strings attached to funding and historical crimes which are fact through admission. </p><p></p><p>90 days in to this the disinformation machine is already hard at work. </p><p></p><p>["The consensus among experts placed the beginning of the spread of HIV to a convention of gays in Haiti". "Then they moved on to green monkeys."]</p><p></p><p>You chose to call this "political" incitement without even considering the possibility that the words are actually true historical quotes.</p><p></p><p>Historical revisionism is repugnant. Perhaps you engage in it because you are unable to imagine a moment in history when it was much easier to deceive the public. Representing yourself as an objective thinker when you are actually narrow minded and uninformed isn't cool. Especially not here. </p><p></p><p>Haiti convention was your "experts" speaking when GRID (HIV) first made headlines. </p><p></p><p>Who were these "experts" speaking to in 1983-4? </p><p> A gullible god-fearing public who, thanks to the profound right wing agenda prevalent at the time, were more than willing to blame homosexuals for this judgement sent by their deity. </p><p></p><p>In 1983 very few Americans understood that this "vile homosexual activist community" actually consisted of their very own sons, spouses, co-workers and clergy. This lack of understanding on the faces to be detested made it making it quite easy for evil-doers to paint villains congregating at a convention in Haiti. </p><p></p><p> Later, when the absurdity of that claim became difficult to avoid the "experts" switched to "green monkeys" . </p><p></p><p>The purpose of HIV "expert" revelations has never been anything other but an agenda to deflect attention away from the fact that the virus mysteriously surfaced simultaneously in three major homosexual communities confounding epidemiologists. </p><p></p><p>The furious campaign of disinformation which immediately and simultaneously surfaced with national disclosure of horrific death sweeping through gay communities demonstrates that the disinformation machine was pre-conceived. </p><p></p><p>Relentless propaganda pounded the airwaves for more than a year. It took many forms such as dispensing muddled statistics from two different viruses on two continents, dismissal of inquiries about disappeared serum control samples from the NYC gay hepatitis vaccine trials and on and on and on. </p><p></p><p>Not withstanding the fact that there is absolutely not any scientific consensus whatsoever as to who coronavirus patient 0 actually was your mind refuses to accept the fact that "experts" rely on funding that flows to researchers who march in time to the tune of the propaganda machine. POTUS is the terminal output. Look at what he has said!</p><p></p><p> Do you deny that the U.S. government injected citizens with plutonium and other noxious agents without their knowledge or consent? Or that it knowingly denied antibiotics for syphilis to Americans of color while pretending to treat them for years "just to see what happens"? Or that it conducted occult vaccine tests off-shore which were grossly unethical? Or that the U.S. gave birth to eugenics and genetic hygiene? What more proof does anyone need that dangerous organized well funded genocidal militant extensions of political extremists exist?</p><p></p><p>It is not necessary to adhere to either a natural history or a weaponized-only theory for the origin of HIV. Nor is it scientifically reasonable to view it as a single epidemic that spread around the world. Natural viruses can be harvested the injected in to target populations. The historical fact of the intensive disinformation campaign is damning all by itself. </p><p></p><p> Any reasonable person must consider all that has gone before if they are to digest reports from today's pandemic "experts" objectively. </p><p></p><p>I promote reasonable discussion about the highly relevant history of HIV not a theory about intentional release of a weaponized agent as the cause of the COVID pandemic because the same disinformation machinery with "expert" reports is proving no different than what has come before. </p><p></p><p>Your inability to respond in any meaningful way to the historical facts presented as a means of encouraging others to question "experts" is disheartening. You engage in the well known and lowly tactic of slamming with the 'conspiracy label theory' as if your purpose on the forum is little more than to dissuade critical thinking and discussion. Is this true or are you merely a victim of your own delusions?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pqteb1r, post: 175119, member: 19419"] Not true. There is no scientific consensus that patient 0 was infected at the seafood market. Claiming it is so is politically motivated. Cherry-picking studies in an attempt to prove a point is contrary to the theme of this forum. The origin of SARS-CoV-2 can not be approached in the same way that the benefits of a supplement can simply because it is not possible to dismiss the reality of political agendas bio-weapon research, strings attached to funding and historical crimes which are fact through admission. 90 days in to this the disinformation machine is already hard at work. ["The consensus among experts placed the beginning of the spread of HIV to a convention of gays in Haiti". "Then they moved on to green monkeys."] You chose to call this "political" incitement without even considering the possibility that the words are actually true historical quotes. Historical revisionism is repugnant. Perhaps you engage in it because you are unable to imagine a moment in history when it was much easier to deceive the public. Representing yourself as an objective thinker when you are actually narrow minded and uninformed isn't cool. Especially not here. Haiti convention was your "experts" speaking when GRID (HIV) first made headlines. Who were these "experts" speaking to in 1983-4? A gullible god-fearing public who, thanks to the profound right wing agenda prevalent at the time, were more than willing to blame homosexuals for this judgement sent by their deity. In 1983 very few Americans understood that this "vile homosexual activist community" actually consisted of their very own sons, spouses, co-workers and clergy. This lack of understanding on the faces to be detested made it making it quite easy for evil-doers to paint villains congregating at a convention in Haiti. Later, when the absurdity of that claim became difficult to avoid the "experts" switched to "green monkeys" . The purpose of HIV "expert" revelations has never been anything other but an agenda to deflect attention away from the fact that the virus mysteriously surfaced simultaneously in three major homosexual communities confounding epidemiologists. The furious campaign of disinformation which immediately and simultaneously surfaced with national disclosure of horrific death sweeping through gay communities demonstrates that the disinformation machine was pre-conceived. Relentless propaganda pounded the airwaves for more than a year. It took many forms such as dispensing muddled statistics from two different viruses on two continents, dismissal of inquiries about disappeared serum control samples from the NYC gay hepatitis vaccine trials and on and on and on. Not withstanding the fact that there is absolutely not any scientific consensus whatsoever as to who coronavirus patient 0 actually was your mind refuses to accept the fact that "experts" rely on funding that flows to researchers who march in time to the tune of the propaganda machine. POTUS is the terminal output. Look at what he has said! Do you deny that the U.S. government injected citizens with plutonium and other noxious agents without their knowledge or consent? Or that it knowingly denied antibiotics for syphilis to Americans of color while pretending to treat them for years "just to see what happens"? Or that it conducted occult vaccine tests off-shore which were grossly unethical? Or that the U.S. gave birth to eugenics and genetic hygiene? What more proof does anyone need that dangerous organized well funded genocidal militant extensions of political extremists exist? It is not necessary to adhere to either a natural history or a weaponized-only theory for the origin of HIV. Nor is it scientifically reasonable to view it as a single epidemic that spread around the world. Natural viruses can be harvested the injected in to target populations. The historical fact of the intensive disinformation campaign is damning all by itself. Any reasonable person must consider all that has gone before if they are to digest reports from today's pandemic "experts" objectively. I promote reasonable discussion about the highly relevant history of HIV not a theory about intentional release of a weaponized agent as the cause of the COVID pandemic because the same disinformation machinery with "expert" reports is proving no different than what has come before. Your inability to respond in any meaningful way to the historical facts presented as a means of encouraging others to question "experts" is disheartening. You engage in the well known and lowly tactic of slamming with the 'conspiracy label theory' as if your purpose on the forum is little more than to dissuade critical thinking and discussion. Is this true or are you merely a victim of your own delusions? [/QUOTE]
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