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Dialing in dosing: "Bottom-up" vs. "Top-down"?
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<blockquote data-quote="krm" data-source="post: 125746" data-attributes="member: 19012"><p>Hi guys, so after a few REALLY miserable days I got my blood drawn today for the doctors 6-week follow up. </p><p>He is absolutely inexperienced and put me on a really shitty protocol (discussed in other threads) of 125mg/E2W. </p><p></p><p>I've managed to convince him via email to at least agree to weekly injections, but he said "until we got the results stick with the prescribed dose".</p><p></p><p>Well, as it's my body and I know how I feel I'm sure as heck NOT going to stick with 60mg/week (I'm a top-top-top-of the range SHBG guy), so I'll adapt the protocol myself; </p><p></p><p>due to the fact that where I live (Switzerland) only 250mg ampoules are available (no rubber-top vials), him prescribing me 60mg/week basically means I'm getting 4x 250mg ampoules to draw 60 and throw 190 away. </p><p></p><p>Which means - for my "self-administered protocol", I'm basically free to choose anything between 0 and 250mg / week, as that's what I get with my prescription. </p><p></p><p>Given that I'm (literally) tired after MONTHS of getting to the point of getting a TRT prescription and now 6 weeks of a shitty protocol where I started feeling worse than before, I'm really tempted to "re-start" at the high end of this amount - e.g. 200mg / week - and get my own labs through an independent provider in a few weeks.</p><p></p><p>I was nor wondering about the pros and cons of "starting bottom up" (e.g. starting with 100mg/week and working up to a feel-good level) vs. "starting high" and reducing if I see any negative side effects (high E2 or whatever)?</p><p></p><p>Oh a sidenote, my E2 was BELOW what the lab could even measure before I got started with TRT, so I'm not too worried about E2, quite frankly...</p><p></p><p>Thanks! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="krm, post: 125746, member: 19012"] Hi guys, so after a few REALLY miserable days I got my blood drawn today for the doctors 6-week follow up. He is absolutely inexperienced and put me on a really shitty protocol (discussed in other threads) of 125mg/E2W. I've managed to convince him via email to at least agree to weekly injections, but he said "until we got the results stick with the prescribed dose". Well, as it's my body and I know how I feel I'm sure as heck NOT going to stick with 60mg/week (I'm a top-top-top-of the range SHBG guy), so I'll adapt the protocol myself; due to the fact that where I live (Switzerland) only 250mg ampoules are available (no rubber-top vials), him prescribing me 60mg/week basically means I'm getting 4x 250mg ampoules to draw 60 and throw 190 away. Which means - for my "self-administered protocol", I'm basically free to choose anything between 0 and 250mg / week, as that's what I get with my prescription. Given that I'm (literally) tired after MONTHS of getting to the point of getting a TRT prescription and now 6 weeks of a shitty protocol where I started feeling worse than before, I'm really tempted to "re-start" at the high end of this amount - e.g. 200mg / week - and get my own labs through an independent provider in a few weeks. I was nor wondering about the pros and cons of "starting bottom up" (e.g. starting with 100mg/week and working up to a feel-good level) vs. "starting high" and reducing if I see any negative side effects (high E2 or whatever)? Oh a sidenote, my E2 was BELOW what the lab could even measure before I got started with TRT, so I'm not too worried about E2, quite frankly... Thanks! :) [/QUOTE]
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