DHEA Supplementation & Heart Palpitations

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Friends, a few weeks ago I was admitted to the hospital because I was having an atrial fibrillation which is basically a rapid, irregular heartbeat. This can be dangerous, as it was explained to me, because I am at a larger risk of developing blood clots because of this condition which can lead to a stroke or heart attack. I started having these palpitations a few months ago when I started the new protocol which included DHEA & T3 for my hypothyroidism. It never really bothered me that much, but was alarming as my heart would start racing irregularly for no apparent reason. I thought I was taking too much T3 too fast. It settled down after a while, but then one night it started beating really fast and in an irregular fashion. The fact that made it different this time was that my jaw started to hurt on my left side and my left wrist started to hurt. Fortunately, I didn't have heart pain, but it was practically beating outside of my body. I went to the hospital and was diagnosed with an AFib. The doctors took a ton of blood, gave me several tests, and could not figure out why I was having an AFib. That day I had drank a ton of caffeine which I believe led me to the AFib. However, in looking back I tracked what I did that day other than caffeine. My AFib started immediately after I took my fish oil supplements, DHEA, and Vitamin D. After a few weeks I started having AFib's again and realized it happened at the same time every night, right after I took these supplements. I decided to drink the supplements separately to track which one might be contributing to this condition. By the way all my blood work came back clear, no high cholesterol, no high blood pressure, my thyroid levels were great, and no blood clots. To conclude, after drinking these supplements separately I noticed no reaction from the fish oil or Vitamin D, but I DID receive a bad reaction when taking the DHEA. I take 25mg of DHEA which was prescribed to me by Defy because my DHEA level was so low at a 37.

I'm writing this to see if anybody else has had irregular heartbeats or bad reactions to DHEA. I stopped taking DHEA a few days ago and I have not had any AFib's since then. To me it's proof that the DHEA was causing my irregular heart beats. Other than helping me not to focus on one stress on a daily basis I saw no other benefits. I'm staying away from it for my heart health and hoping to see if anybody else has had the same situation.
 
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Never happend to me and I believe most of us on this forum haven´t had your problem. Are you sure it is an effect of DHEA or could it be something els?
 
Tommy Wall said:
Never happend to me and I believe most of us on this forum haven´t had your problem. Are you sure it is an effect of DHEA or could it be something els?
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I agree that most people do not get this reaction from DHEA, but I seem to have. I stopped the caffeine and have not had any problems with heart palpitations until I took this supplement.
 
fifty said:
25mg is a big dose for some. Try 5mg if you think you need DHEA.
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I totally agree, 25mg is a rather large dose though it's common. The simple thing is to stop taking it and see if symptoms resolve. And then reintroduce it at a much lower dose.
DHEA is contrary to my friends above VERY well known for heart palps and heart rate when taken at a dose too high for the individual. Can also aromatase very easily though I wouldn't suspect the form supplied from DEFY to be prone to E conversion.
 
KenLowT said:
Friends, a few weeks ago I was admitted to the hospital because I was having an atrial fibrillation which is basically a rapid, irregular heartbeat. This can be dangerous, as it was explained to me, because I am at a larger risk of developing blood clots because of this condition which can lead to a stroke or heart attack. I started having these palpitations a few months ago when I started the new protocol which included DHEA & T3 for my hypothyroidism. It never really bothered me that much, but was alarming as my heart would start racing irregularly for no apparent reason. I thought I was taking too much T3 too fast. It settled down after a while, but then one night it started beating really fast and in an irregular fashion. The fact that made it different this time was that my jaw started to hurt on my left side and my left wrist started to hurt. Fortunately, I didn't have heart pain, but it was practically beating outside of my body. I went to the hospital and was diagnosed with an AFib. The doctors took a ton of blood, gave me several tests, and could not figure out why I was having an AFib. That day I had drank a ton of caffeine which I believe led me to the AFib. However, in looking back I tracked what I did that day other than caffeine. My AFib started immediately after I took my fish oil supplements, DHEA, and Vitamin D. After a few weeks I started having AFib's again and realized it happened at the same time every night, right after I took these supplements. I decided to drink the supplements separately to track which one might be contributing to this condition. By the way all my blood work came back clear, no high cholesterol, no high blood pressure, my thyroid levels were great, and no blood clots. To conclude, after drinking these supplements separately I noticed no reaction from the fish oil or Vitamin D, but I DID receive a bad reaction when taking the DHEA. I take 25mg of DHEA which was prescribed to me by Defy because my DHEA level was so low at a 37.

I'm writing this to see if anybody else has had irregular heartbeats or bad reactions to DHEA. I stopped taking DHEA a few days ago and I have not had any AFib's since then. To me it's proof that the DHEA was causing my irregular heart beats. Other than helping me not to focus on one stress on a daily basis I saw no other benefits. I'm staying away from it for my heart health and hoping to see if anybody else has had the same situation.
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Take at least 200-400 mg of magnesium daily to help control your heart rhythm. Make sure you are on a good quality DHEA that is tested to contain what it actually says on the bottle. Start low and slowly work back up to 25 mg and see what happens.

Start baby aspirin (81mg) and/or fish oil to protect against clots (unless they already put you on a blood thinner)
 
KENLOWT - I had a VERY similar reaction to DHEA. My heart rate went to 170/110. My heart was beating in my throat. It was very scary. I knew right away it was the DHEA. This happened no matter the odds, the 25 mg twice a day is what caused it. I found I can tolerate small dose once a week a the maximum. The doctor who prescribed it said that DHEA can effect thyroid in some people. He felt my central nervous system couldn't handle it.

Short story, I take DHEA, a tiny dose, 12.5 mg maybe once every one-two weeks. Or not at all.

Hope that helps.
 
KenLowT said:
Friends, a few weeks ago I was admitted to the hospital because I was having an atrial fibrillation which is basically a rapid, irregular heartbeat. This can be dangerous, as it was explained to me, because I am at a larger risk of developing blood clots because of this condition which can lead to a stroke or heart attack. I started having these palpitations a few months ago when I started the new protocol which included DHEA & T3 for my hypothyroidism. It never really bothered me that much, but was alarming as my heart would start racing irregularly for no apparent reason. I thought I was taking too much T3 too fast. It settled down after a while, but then one night it started beating really fast and in an irregular fashion. The fact that made it different this time was that my jaw started to hurt on my left side and my left wrist started to hurt. Fortunately, I didn't have heart pain, but it was practically beating outside of my body. I went to the hospital and was diagnosed with an AFib. The doctors took a ton of blood, gave me several tests, and could not figure out why I was having an AFib. That day I had drank a ton of caffeine which I believe led me to the AFib. However, in looking back I tracked what I did that day other than caffeine. My AFib started immediately after I took my fish oil supplements, DHEA, and Vitamin D. After a few weeks I started having AFib's again and realized it happened at the same time every night, right after I took these supplements. I decided to drink the supplements separately to track which one might be contributing to this condition. By the way all my blood work came back clear, no high cholesterol, no high blood pressure, my thyroid levels were great, and no blood clots. To conclude, after drinking these supplements separately I noticed no reaction from the fish oil or Vitamin D, but I DID receive a bad reaction when taking the DHEA. I take 25mg of DHEA which was prescribed to me by Defy because my DHEA level was so low at a 37.

I'm writing this to see if anybody else has had irregular heartbeats or bad reactions to DHEA. I stopped taking DHEA a few days ago and I have not had any AFib's since then. To me it's proof that the DHEA was causing my irregular heart beats. Other than helping me not to focus on one stress on a daily basis I saw no other benefits. I'm staying away from it for my heart health and hoping to see if anybody else has had the same situation.
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Hi Ken, Did you try to change the supplement? I often find that, with the cheaper brands, you don't get what you paid for. Your symptoms are reminiscent of bad foods, possibly mycotoxins. This can arise, for example, from cheap or badly stored fish oil tablets that actually contain rancid material. Material used to make the capsule is also one of the usual suspects. Please check the manufacturer and country of origin of your supplement. Switch to a known brand if your supplement is not already proven authentic. Namaste.
 
KenLowT said:
Friends, a few weeks ago I was admitted to the hospital because I was having an atrial fibrillation which is basically a rapid, irregular heartbeat. This can be dangerous, as it was explained to me, because I am at a larger risk of developing blood clots because of this condition which can lead to a stroke or heart attack. I started having these palpitations a few months ago when I started the new protocol which included DHEA & T3 for my hypothyroidism. It never really bothered me that much, but was alarming as my heart would start racing irregularly for no apparent reason. I thought I was taking too much T3 too fast. It settled down after a while, but then one night it started beating really fast and in an irregular fashion. The fact that made it different this time was that my jaw started to hurt on my left side and my left wrist started to hurt. Fortunately, I didn't have heart pain, but it was practically beating outside of my body. I went to the hospital and was diagnosed with an AFib. The doctors took a ton of blood, gave me several tests, and could not figure out why I was having an AFib. That day I had drank a ton of caffeine which I believe led me to the AFib. However, in looking back I tracked what I did that day other than caffeine. My AFib started immediately after I took my fish oil supplements, DHEA, and Vitamin D. After a few weeks I started having AFib's again and realized it happened at the same time every night, right after I took these supplements. I decided to drink the supplements separately to track which one might be contributing to this condition. By the way all my blood work came back clear, no high cholesterol, no high blood pressure, my thyroid levels were great, and no blood clots. To conclude, after drinking these supplements separately I noticed no reaction from the fish oil or Vitamin D, but I DID receive a bad reaction when taking the DHEA. I take 25mg of DHEA which was prescribed to me by Defy because my DHEA level was so low at a 37.

I'm writing this to see if anybody else has had irregular heartbeats or bad reactions to DHEA. I stopped taking DHEA a few days ago and I have not had any AFib's since then. To me it's proof that the DHEA was causing my irregular heart beats. Other than helping me not to focus on one stress on a daily basis I saw no other benefits. I'm staying away from it for my heart health and hoping to see if anybody else has had the same situation.
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KenLowT said:
Friends, a few weeks ago I was admitted to the hospital because I was having an atrial fibrillation which is basically a rapid, irregular heartbeat. This can be dangerous, as it was explained to me, because I am at a larger risk of developing blood clots because of this condition which can lead to a stroke or heart attack. I started having these palpitations a few months ago when I started the new protocol which included DHEA & T3 for my hypothyroidism. It never really bothered me that much, but was alarming as my heart would start racing irregularly for no apparent reason. I thought I was taking too much T3 too fast. It settled down after a while, but then one night it started beating really fast and in an irregular fashion. The fact that made it different this time was that my jaw started to hurt on my left side and my left wrist started to hurt. Fortunately, I didn't have heart pain, but it was practically beating outside of my body. I went to the hospital and was diagnosed with an AFib. The doctors took a ton of blood, gave me several tests, and could not figure out why I was having an AFib. That day I had drank a ton of caffeine which I believe led me to the AFib. However, in looking back I tracked what I did that day other than caffeine. My AFib started immediately after I took my fish oil supplements, DHEA, and Vitamin D. After a few weeks I started having AFib's again and realized it happened at the same time every night, right after I took these supplements. I decided to drink the supplements separately to track which one might be contributing to this condition. By the way all my blood work came back clear, no high cholesterol, no high blood pressure, my thyroid levels were great, and no blood clots. To conclude, after drinking these supplements separately I noticed no reaction from the fish oil or Vitamin D, but I DID receive a bad reaction when taking the DHEA. I take 25mg of DHEA which was prescribed to me by Defy because my DHEA level was so low at a 37.

I'm writing this to see if anybody else has had irregular heartbeats or bad reactions to DHEA. I stopped taking DHEA a few days ago and I have not had any AFib's since then. To me it's proof that the DHEA was causing my irregular heart beats. Other than helping me not to focus on one stress on a daily basis I saw no other benefits. I'm staying away from it for my heart health and hoping to see if anybody else has had the same situation.
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My prior Hormone doctor had me on 100mg DHEA and I was getting the exact issue you describe, I fired the doctor and have since take 25 mg with the same effect. I too had low DHEA but didn’t know how it would, affect me and after having issues with It I will probably not take it again. For me, I have a stressful job and I’m sure it coupled with DHEA resulted in days with high irregular heart rates.
 
I have been taking 25mg DHEA daily for the last month and now having heart palpitations. I just received my Discounted Labs today and see I have a 369mcg/dl on a range of 32-279 so over the top by quite a bit. I think I will cut it and see what happens and maybe try a 5mg or nothing!
 
Boy, I am glad I saw this. I have been taking DHEA at 20 mg for 8 weeks. I did this prior to blood work, which looking back wasn't ideal. I am not on TRT as of yet.
My T total came in at 600 and my free was a bit on the low side (I thought) at 55.5

I am 46 now.

Here is where it gets interesting. I was having this strange, "feeling" in my chest for a few weeks. A slight out of body, "Dizzy" feeling and it went away while I worked out but sometimes came back. My resting HR went way high for me at 80. I am normally in the 50s. I thought maybe I was getting sensitive to caffeine so I cut coffee in half. Nothing changed.

Make a long story short I see this thread. I stopped DHEA yesterday and the symptoms seem to have left.

I would have never guessed. Thanks!
 
Seems like the best approach is to cut everything you suspect that may have caused the Afib. High doses of even caffeine are a big culprit and you admitted to drinking a "ton of coffee." Cut the DHEA, T3 and fish oil. Monitor your heart rhythm for a few weeks and see how you do. If there are no problems, then slowly add these supplements back one at a time while you monitor your HR. You might also consider getting one of these 6 lead Kardiamobil EKG monitors that are FDA approved medical devices. The results can be compiled and sent to a doctor in a .pdf format.
 
molonlabedoc said:
Boy, I am glad I saw this. I have been taking DHEA at 20 mg for 8 weeks. I did this prior to blood work, which looking back wasn't ideal. I am not on TRT as of yet.
My T total came in at 600 and my free was a bit on the low side (I thought) at 55.5

I am 46 now.

Here is where it gets interesting. I was having this strange, "feeling" in my chest for a few weeks. A slight out of body, "Dizzy" feeling and it went away while I worked out but sometimes came back. My resting HR went way high for me at 80. I am normally in the 50s. I thought maybe I was getting sensitive to caffeine so I cut coffee in half. Nothing changed.

Make a long story short I see this thread. I stopped DHEA yesterday and the symptoms seem to have left.

I would have never guessed. Thanks!
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I think I am familiar with the “chest“ sensation you are describing. I get it, too, with TRT at times and haven’t quite figured out what it means.
 
Tommy Wall said:
Never happend to me and I believe most of us on this forum haven´t had your problem. Are you sure it is an effect of DHEA or could it be something els?
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Here’s something perhaps we should all keep in mind, tracking of side effects for medications or supplements, will most often result in a bell curve, with 80% of the population having mild or no side effects. It’s the other 20% who have the majority of issues, and the farther out from the middle of the curve, the more common and often worse, or more rare the side effects.

I know this from experience… was having severe issues which could have resulted in unnecessary surgery, had I not done my research and discovered that two medications I had been taking could cause my symptoms, but only reported by 1% of the reported population. 1%!!! So, of course most people wouldn’t experience this, and some would dismiss it. So don’t doubt yourself… do the research, and find healthcare providers who are comfortable when you might not fit neatly in the middle 80%. Good luck… hopefully you figure it out!
 
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