ExcelMale
Menu
Home
What's new
Latest activity
Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
Latest activity
Videos
Lab Tests
Doctor Finder
Buy Books
About Us
Men’s Health Coaching
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Navigation
Install the app
Install
More options
Contact us
Close Menu
Forums
Expert Interviews
Questions for Specific Doctors & Experts
Desperate for advice on severe prostate issues due to hormone misuse
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Blackout" data-source="post: 117518" data-attributes="member: 18956"><p>I feel dead, or as if I am walking with a death sentence over me. I'm now pretty sure I have cancer or will have very soon. My poor anxiety management doesn't help to think otherwise.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I did a PSA test a month ago and it was 0.68, just as it was 6 years ago when I was much healthier at the beginning of my PSSD nightmare. And went to an urologist which performed an ultrasound at his office -which i didn't see- and told he used the terms enlarged prostate and prostatitis as the same.</p><p></p><p>A month later I went to another one as my pain and also my fears escalated, and this time he asked me to do an ultrasound on my own. And the written report told indeed that I have prostatitis AND slightly enlarged prostate -23 grams with 42x31x31 cm-, and also some calcified lesions called amyloid body calcifications. And my PSA, a month later than my previous test, was down to 0.57.</p><p></p><p>The second urologist was more open to talk with me. I was able to explain in detail what I had done and why. And he assured me that those amyloid body calfications have nothing to do with what I did, he says it is normal to develop them over the course of life. He also mentioned that the time the rats developed cancer was that fast because of their much shorter life span and metabolic processes, and also told me that we are not exactly the same as rats, genetically speaking. What can you say about the similarities or differences between rats and humans on the possible outcomes of what i did?</p><p></p><p>I'm in such fear, even when due to my PSSD I can't experience the full range of emotions. The experiments in rats mentioned that all of them developed intraductal carcinoma, and I found on my own that such kind of tumor in humans doesn't give rise to PSA.</p><p></p><p>The second urologist prescribed cialis -which I already take-, and some anticholinergic to help with nightly urge to pee but I don’t want to take it, and offered me to try finasteride or dutasteride, but for me, trying any of those two would be like taking sertraline again, or as I guess, much worse since I know very well about PFS due to my life researching about PSSD. Not only that, it scared me a lot what I found about 5a reductase inhibitors increasing the risk of high grade prostate cancer in the long term, and also increasing the risk of breast cancer, and with so much breast stimulation during these past months, I don't want to mess even more. Currently, my armpit lymph nodes are gone, but I have pain and discomfort on the left chest.</p><p></p><p>I don't know what to do. It is as if I have to choose between the fire or the boiling oil.</p><p></p><p>Can anyone give me any advice on my current condition, an opinion on the E2´+T being 100% carcinogenic in rats or in humans, or what do to next? By the way, I'm down to full hypogonadism with a TT of 2.9 and a E2 of 35. Although my T is now low, my current T/E2 ratio is too bad for the prostate anyway, but now I'm afraid to use low-normal doses of T despite the fact that the urologist told me that I may take it if in 6 months I don't have anything else. Because he told me that I must check my PSA and do a new ultrasound every 6 months at least for 3 years.</p><p></p><p>Yes I'm an idiot, I know, but no one who is not in my place could possibly imagine what does it feel to be in the body and mind of a male who when younger was prohibited to enjoy life, to enjoy the company of girls, their body -or my own body and sensations, to begin with-, their smile, their voice, their everything, just to open my eyes and fall to an apparently neverending abyss, whose real end now appears to be this, prostate cancer. I am still attractive, I hate not having being aware of that 20, even 10 years ago, but even if I had been aware, I was so repressed. My facial features are those of an alpha male -with the plus of a still dense mane of wavy hair despite my age and despite my stupid experiments, since i didn't suffer from hair loss while doing them-. And to think that I may be only left for the scrapper at 35 years without having a single taste of life.</p><p></p><p>By the way I'm currently remembering how different women approached me between 2014 and 2016, their intentions crystal clear, only to be treated like damaged merchandise when I openly confessed that I was unable to love or to have sex. Again, this misery is what drove me to do this bad use of hormones. Do you know or remember ‘Interview with the Vampire’? The vampire child Claudia? I feel so identified with her: she, a female adult mind and feelings trapped inside the useless body of a small child –even younger in the novel-, knowing that she will live forever unable to feel how does it feel to be in the body of an adult, developed woman, not being able to blend in society and many more effects. I feel the same while being the opposite: a man who reached his twenties with his mind more like that of a conflicted boy, unable to enjoy the prime of his life –even his teenage years- and now in my mid thirties, sentenced to accept that I was born to be castrated first psychologically, then chemically, a whole life unable to feel alive. That’s why I used estradiol. Utter desperation.</p><p></p><p>Yesterday I went to an endocrinologist, but she transferred me immeadiately to the psychiatrist, which in turn wants me to be again on SSRI and antipsychotic. I'm tired of never being understood, of never being heard in the first place, since no one recognizes SSRIs as a cause of permanent sexual dysfunction or flattened emotions. And from my experience, I'm quite certain that SSRIs should not be prescribed to people with hormone imbalances, but psychiatrists never do any kind of lab test prior to prescribing.</p><p></p><p>Please, I beg you for some advice and to be respectful as I asked at the beginning.</p><p></p><p>I know I have some questions, but can't remember every one right now.</p><p></p><p>1) What do you think about taking finasteride or dutasteride? If I decide to do it, could it help me to try to counter their sides if i do low normal TRT? By the way, my short term memory is even slightly better than it was half a year ago and I don’t want to go back to the severe cognitive impairment I was dealing with. And regarding breast cancer risk, could it help if I use raloxifene too? THis las question , I have my doubts, since from what I understand, finasteride breast cancer risk is due to low DHT, more than to high E2. I have been having left breast pain since quitting my last experiment, and a new ultrasound doesn't show anything of relevance save for the slightly, very sllightly bigger gyno.</p><p></p><p>2) On the other hand, I have found several reports telling that some SERMs had potential to induce apoptosis of the prostate overgrowth, yet I don't find that they are used for that purpose. I don't understand. I would be tempted to try, but I know that everytime I try something I end up far worse than before. What if I use raloxifene for the breast issues, but in the last place, it ends up damaging my prostate even more?</p><p></p><p>3) Do you think as my second urologist said, that because 100% of treated rats developed cancer, it doesn't mean that the same would apply to humans? I should mention that out of curiosity, I found that E2 doesn't induce the same rates of mammary cancer in rats, it appears that the incidence is much, much lower, but for the prostate, E2+T seems to be assured death at least in rats.</p><p></p><p>I recognize how stupid I may seem when I tell the doctors that I tried to replicate rat experiments -E2+DHT for SSRI side effects- due to my desperation of being chemically castrated for 7-8 years, and since PSSD is not even recognized, I'm just seen as a psychotic, delusional idiot.</p><p></p><p>There are more questions, but I can't remember them. If I do, I will post them.</p><p></p><p>I should mention some other things before ending this post: I have been dealing with chronic inflammation since early 2016, which I believe has its origin in my gut. And I didn’t take into account that E2 promotes even more inflammation. I have still a colonoscopy waiting for me. It’s really so hard to accept that my life could be over at just 36 without a single taste of life itself.</p><p></p><p>Thank you for your time and patience for reading.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blackout, post: 117518, member: 18956"] I feel dead, or as if I am walking with a death sentence over me. I'm now pretty sure I have cancer or will have very soon. My poor anxiety management doesn't help to think otherwise. I did a PSA test a month ago and it was 0.68, just as it was 6 years ago when I was much healthier at the beginning of my PSSD nightmare. And went to an urologist which performed an ultrasound at his office -which i didn't see- and told he used the terms enlarged prostate and prostatitis as the same. A month later I went to another one as my pain and also my fears escalated, and this time he asked me to do an ultrasound on my own. And the written report told indeed that I have prostatitis AND slightly enlarged prostate -23 grams with 42x31x31 cm-, and also some calcified lesions called amyloid body calcifications. And my PSA, a month later than my previous test, was down to 0.57. The second urologist was more open to talk with me. I was able to explain in detail what I had done and why. And he assured me that those amyloid body calfications have nothing to do with what I did, he says it is normal to develop them over the course of life. He also mentioned that the time the rats developed cancer was that fast because of their much shorter life span and metabolic processes, and also told me that we are not exactly the same as rats, genetically speaking. What can you say about the similarities or differences between rats and humans on the possible outcomes of what i did? I'm in such fear, even when due to my PSSD I can't experience the full range of emotions. The experiments in rats mentioned that all of them developed intraductal carcinoma, and I found on my own that such kind of tumor in humans doesn't give rise to PSA. The second urologist prescribed cialis -which I already take-, and some anticholinergic to help with nightly urge to pee but I don’t want to take it, and offered me to try finasteride or dutasteride, but for me, trying any of those two would be like taking sertraline again, or as I guess, much worse since I know very well about PFS due to my life researching about PSSD. Not only that, it scared me a lot what I found about 5a reductase inhibitors increasing the risk of high grade prostate cancer in the long term, and also increasing the risk of breast cancer, and with so much breast stimulation during these past months, I don't want to mess even more. Currently, my armpit lymph nodes are gone, but I have pain and discomfort on the left chest. I don't know what to do. It is as if I have to choose between the fire or the boiling oil. Can anyone give me any advice on my current condition, an opinion on the E2´+T being 100% carcinogenic in rats or in humans, or what do to next? By the way, I'm down to full hypogonadism with a TT of 2.9 and a E2 of 35. Although my T is now low, my current T/E2 ratio is too bad for the prostate anyway, but now I'm afraid to use low-normal doses of T despite the fact that the urologist told me that I may take it if in 6 months I don't have anything else. Because he told me that I must check my PSA and do a new ultrasound every 6 months at least for 3 years. Yes I'm an idiot, I know, but no one who is not in my place could possibly imagine what does it feel to be in the body and mind of a male who when younger was prohibited to enjoy life, to enjoy the company of girls, their body -or my own body and sensations, to begin with-, their smile, their voice, their everything, just to open my eyes and fall to an apparently neverending abyss, whose real end now appears to be this, prostate cancer. I am still attractive, I hate not having being aware of that 20, even 10 years ago, but even if I had been aware, I was so repressed. My facial features are those of an alpha male -with the plus of a still dense mane of wavy hair despite my age and despite my stupid experiments, since i didn't suffer from hair loss while doing them-. And to think that I may be only left for the scrapper at 35 years without having a single taste of life. By the way I'm currently remembering how different women approached me between 2014 and 2016, their intentions crystal clear, only to be treated like damaged merchandise when I openly confessed that I was unable to love or to have sex. Again, this misery is what drove me to do this bad use of hormones. Do you know or remember ‘Interview with the Vampire’? The vampire child Claudia? I feel so identified with her: she, a female adult mind and feelings trapped inside the useless body of a small child –even younger in the novel-, knowing that she will live forever unable to feel how does it feel to be in the body of an adult, developed woman, not being able to blend in society and many more effects. I feel the same while being the opposite: a man who reached his twenties with his mind more like that of a conflicted boy, unable to enjoy the prime of his life –even his teenage years- and now in my mid thirties, sentenced to accept that I was born to be castrated first psychologically, then chemically, a whole life unable to feel alive. That’s why I used estradiol. Utter desperation. Yesterday I went to an endocrinologist, but she transferred me immeadiately to the psychiatrist, which in turn wants me to be again on SSRI and antipsychotic. I'm tired of never being understood, of never being heard in the first place, since no one recognizes SSRIs as a cause of permanent sexual dysfunction or flattened emotions. And from my experience, I'm quite certain that SSRIs should not be prescribed to people with hormone imbalances, but psychiatrists never do any kind of lab test prior to prescribing. Please, I beg you for some advice and to be respectful as I asked at the beginning. I know I have some questions, but can't remember every one right now. 1) What do you think about taking finasteride or dutasteride? If I decide to do it, could it help me to try to counter their sides if i do low normal TRT? By the way, my short term memory is even slightly better than it was half a year ago and I don’t want to go back to the severe cognitive impairment I was dealing with. And regarding breast cancer risk, could it help if I use raloxifene too? THis las question , I have my doubts, since from what I understand, finasteride breast cancer risk is due to low DHT, more than to high E2. I have been having left breast pain since quitting my last experiment, and a new ultrasound doesn't show anything of relevance save for the slightly, very sllightly bigger gyno. 2) On the other hand, I have found several reports telling that some SERMs had potential to induce apoptosis of the prostate overgrowth, yet I don't find that they are used for that purpose. I don't understand. I would be tempted to try, but I know that everytime I try something I end up far worse than before. What if I use raloxifene for the breast issues, but in the last place, it ends up damaging my prostate even more? 3) Do you think as my second urologist said, that because 100% of treated rats developed cancer, it doesn't mean that the same would apply to humans? I should mention that out of curiosity, I found that E2 doesn't induce the same rates of mammary cancer in rats, it appears that the incidence is much, much lower, but for the prostate, E2+T seems to be assured death at least in rats. I recognize how stupid I may seem when I tell the doctors that I tried to replicate rat experiments -E2+DHT for SSRI side effects- due to my desperation of being chemically castrated for 7-8 years, and since PSSD is not even recognized, I'm just seen as a psychotic, delusional idiot. There are more questions, but I can't remember them. If I do, I will post them. I should mention some other things before ending this post: I have been dealing with chronic inflammation since early 2016, which I believe has its origin in my gut. And I didn’t take into account that E2 promotes even more inflammation. I have still a colonoscopy waiting for me. It’s really so hard to accept that my life could be over at just 36 without a single taste of life itself. Thank you for your time and patience for reading. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Share this page
Facebook
Twitter
Reddit
Pinterest
Tumblr
WhatsApp
Email
Share
Link
Sponsors
Forums
Expert Interviews
Questions for Specific Doctors & Experts
Desperate for advice on severe prostate issues due to hormone misuse
This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
Accept
Learn more…
Top