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Bringing this thread back to life.  My IGF-1 was around 70 and Defy put me on 25mg of Empower Ibutamoren.  My IGF-1 has come up to about 140 ish and stays there.   Won't go any higher.  For a while they switched me to Sermorelen and all I did was bloat. My belly looked protruded.  Got off of that and back on Ibutamoren.   Besides that I feel NOTHING different being on this stuff.  Not sure it's worth continuing for the price?