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Decreasing TRT dose leading to low libido
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<blockquote data-quote="madman" data-source="post: 197978" data-attributes="member: 13851"><p><strong>Its all about symptom resolution</strong></p><p></p><p>Indeed and unfortunately most running absurd levels have never tried a lower dose let alone never given a lower dosed protocol a fighting chance!</p><p></p><p>You know the part I have stressed numerous times on the forum here that many fail to understand when it comes to using exogenous testosterone:</p><p></p><p></p><p>Keep in mind many fail to realize that when starting trt or tweaking a protocol (dose T/injection frequency) that <strong><em>hormones will be in flux during the weeks leading up until blood levels stabilize (4-6 weeks when using TC/TE)</em></strong> and it is common for many during this transition to experience what we call the <u><em><strong>honeymoon period where there may be a strong increase in libido/erections and overall euphoric feeling due to increasing T levels/dopamine</strong></em></u><strong><em>.</em></strong></p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, this is temporary and short-lived for most as the body will eventually adjust.</p><p></p><p>It is also very common for many men to experience ups/downs in energy/mood/libido/erections/recovery <strong><em>during the transition as the body is trying to adjust which can be very misleading.</em></strong></p><p><strong><em></em></strong></p><p><strong><em>Even then do understand that once blood levels have stabilized (4-6 weeks) it will take another 2-3 months for the body to fully adapt to those new levels and this is the critical time period when one should gauge how they truly feel overall regarding relief/improvement of low-t symptoms.</em></strong></p><p></p><p>When looking at the big picture the first 4-6 weeks is very misleading for most!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>If you have symtoms returning on 200mg, then simply go back to 250mg.. </strong></p><p></p><p>Horrible advice he just f**King lowered his dose 2 weeks ago.</p><p></p><p>*<u>About a week or two after lowering my dosage, I noticed a decline in my libido</u>.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>there was nothing wrong with your numbers !</strong></p><p></p><p>Guess you forgot the part that he is running 1500 ng/dL trough levels and with an SHBG of 24 nmol/L which is far from high his trough FT level would be through the roof.....much higher than the 24 ng/dL he posted.</p><p></p><p>You should very well know from being on here long enough that although TT is important to know FT is what truly matters as it is the active unbound fraction of testosterone responsible for the positive effects.</p><p></p><p>To top it all off that unfortunately when it comes to FT most are using/rely on piss-poor assays which are inaccurate and many have no clue where their FT level truly sits which is much higher than most would think.</p><p></p><p>The only way to know where your FT level truly sits is to have it tested using the most accurate assays such as the gold standard equilibrium Dialysis or Ultrafiltration (next best).</p><p></p><p>Guess you also forgot to ask him where his RBCs/hemoglobin/hematocrit sit on such protocol.</p><p></p><p>Sure symptom relief is what truly matters but where your TT/FT levels truly sit on such protocol (dose T/injection frequency) is critical to know let alone the impact it may have on overall blood markers!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="madman, post: 197978, member: 13851"] [B]Its all about symptom resolution[/B] Indeed and unfortunately most running absurd levels have never tried a lower dose let alone never given a lower dosed protocol a fighting chance! You know the part I have stressed numerous times on the forum here that many fail to understand when it comes to using exogenous testosterone: Keep in mind many fail to realize that when starting trt or tweaking a protocol (dose T/injection frequency) that [B][I]hormones will be in flux during the weeks leading up until blood levels stabilize (4-6 weeks when using TC/TE)[/I][/B] and it is common for many during this transition to experience what we call the [U][I][B]honeymoon period where there may be a strong increase in libido/erections and overall euphoric feeling due to increasing T levels/dopamine[/B][/I][/U][B][I].[/I][/B] Unfortunately, this is temporary and short-lived for most as the body will eventually adjust. It is also very common for many men to experience ups/downs in energy/mood/libido/erections/recovery [B][I]during the transition as the body is trying to adjust which can be very misleading. Even then do understand that once blood levels have stabilized (4-6 weeks) it will take another 2-3 months for the body to fully adapt to those new levels and this is the critical time period when one should gauge how they truly feel overall regarding relief/improvement of low-t symptoms.[/I][/B] When looking at the big picture the first 4-6 weeks is very misleading for most! [B]If you have symtoms returning on 200mg, then simply go back to 250mg.. [/B] Horrible advice he just f**King lowered his dose 2 weeks ago. *[U]About a week or two after lowering my dosage, I noticed a decline in my libido[/U]. [B]there was nothing wrong with your numbers ![/B] Guess you forgot the part that he is running 1500 ng/dL trough levels and with an SHBG of 24 nmol/L which is far from high his trough FT level would be through the roof.....much higher than the 24 ng/dL he posted. You should very well know from being on here long enough that although TT is important to know FT is what truly matters as it is the active unbound fraction of testosterone responsible for the positive effects. To top it all off that unfortunately when it comes to FT most are using/rely on piss-poor assays which are inaccurate and many have no clue where their FT level truly sits which is much higher than most would think. The only way to know where your FT level truly sits is to have it tested using the most accurate assays such as the gold standard equilibrium Dialysis or Ultrafiltration (next best). Guess you also forgot to ask him where his RBCs/hemoglobin/hematocrit sit on such protocol. Sure symptom relief is what truly matters but where your TT/FT levels truly sit on such protocol (dose T/injection frequency) is critical to know let alone the impact it may have on overall blood markers! [/QUOTE]
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