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Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Deca (nandrolone) for joint pain
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<blockquote data-quote="madman" data-source="post: 234714" data-attributes="member: 13851"><p>This has been beaten to death on here, with numerous threads/posts on the forum.</p><p></p><p>No one is being prescribed ND in Canada unless you suffer from cachexia (wasting syndrome).</p><p></p><p>Big pharma is no longer manufactured/available here and if you were prescribed ND for a legit medical condition {HIV, cancer cachexia) then it would be obtained through a compounding pharmacy.</p><p></p><p>Your only other option as you know is f**king with UGL gear and in such case, you better hope your source is legit.</p><p></p><p>Depending on the source UGL gear can be underdosed/overdosed, unsterile, or contain a completely different compound, or bunk!</p><p></p><p>Nandrolone is considered one of the mildest compounds when it comes to androgenic side effects.</p><p></p><p>When using therapeutic doses of 50-100 mg/week sides should be minimal although some may struggle with increased hemoglobin/hematocrit or decreased HDL and even then this would be more common when using higher doses.</p><p></p><p>Some may struggle with libido/ED issues or notice a negative effect on mood.</p><p></p><p>None of this is a given and no one can say how you will react to such a compound.</p><p></p><p>Only time will tell.</p><p></p><p>Would not put the blame on TRT for causing your joint issues.</p><p></p><p>Sure if you crashed your estradiol with the use of an AI then it could lead to issues but I would put more of the blame on your age and how you are training (mixed martial arts, weightlifting) which can easily beat up your joints/tendons/ligaments over time.</p><p></p><p>We need to learn to train smarter as we age otherwise your joints/tendons will continue to take a beating and you will pay the price sooner or later.</p><p></p><p>Would not even waste my time using ND unless you plan on training smarter.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/something-as-effective-for-joints-as-nandrolone.25347/#post-224676[/URL]</p><p></p><p><strong>My reply from a previous thread:</strong></p><p></p><p>Although using therapeutic doses (50-100 mg/week) of ND can minimize joint pain/stiffness for some it is a grave mistake to think that using it will prevent any further damage to joints/ligaments and tendons especially if you continue to keep lifting heavy long-term.</p><p></p><p>No amount of ND/AAS let alone GH is going to prevent damage to joints/ligaments/tendons from overuse/repetitive heavy lifting long-term.</p><p></p><p>Talk to anyone who has been lifting heavy let alone training for years eventually there will be some degree of wear and tear especially on the joints/tendons.</p><p></p><p>Many men struggling with what they think is tendonitis end up having tendinosis which is degeneration of the tendons.</p><p></p><p>Regarding tendonitis in most cases when one has been strength training for a long time (years) most in fact develop tendinosis as opposed to tendinitis (which they think they have) and when one develops tendinosis the tendons are much more prone to a tear as tendinosis is a degeneration of the tendons collagen from chronic overuse.</p><p></p><p>Aging will also have a big impact on tendon/joint health.</p><p></p><p>As we age one needs to train smarter as you will notice it is very common for most who have been weight training for years to end up with damage to the joints/ligaments/tendons from the repetitive wear/tear on the body.</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Important points to keep in mind:</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong><em>* worn out/degenerative cartilage never grows back</em></strong></p><p><strong><em></em></strong></p><p><em><strong>* individual tendon architecture is exquisitely tuned for optimal function, and scar-like healing generally fails to return to its pre-injury structure</strong></em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="madman, post: 234714, member: 13851"] This has been beaten to death on here, with numerous threads/posts on the forum. No one is being prescribed ND in Canada unless you suffer from cachexia (wasting syndrome). Big pharma is no longer manufactured/available here and if you were prescribed ND for a legit medical condition {HIV, cancer cachexia) then it would be obtained through a compounding pharmacy. Your only other option as you know is f**king with UGL gear and in such case, you better hope your source is legit. Depending on the source UGL gear can be underdosed/overdosed, unsterile, or contain a completely different compound, or bunk! Nandrolone is considered one of the mildest compounds when it comes to androgenic side effects. When using therapeutic doses of 50-100 mg/week sides should be minimal although some may struggle with increased hemoglobin/hematocrit or decreased HDL and even then this would be more common when using higher doses. Some may struggle with libido/ED issues or notice a negative effect on mood. None of this is a given and no one can say how you will react to such a compound. Only time will tell. Would not put the blame on TRT for causing your joint issues. Sure if you crashed your estradiol with the use of an AI then it could lead to issues but I would put more of the blame on your age and how you are training (mixed martial arts, weightlifting) which can easily beat up your joints/tendons/ligaments over time. We need to learn to train smarter as we age otherwise your joints/tendons will continue to take a beating and you will pay the price sooner or later. Would not even waste my time using ND unless you plan on training smarter. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/something-as-effective-for-joints-as-nandrolone.25347/#post-224676[/URL] [B]My reply from a previous thread:[/B] Although using therapeutic doses (50-100 mg/week) of ND can minimize joint pain/stiffness for some it is a grave mistake to think that using it will prevent any further damage to joints/ligaments and tendons especially if you continue to keep lifting heavy long-term. No amount of ND/AAS let alone GH is going to prevent damage to joints/ligaments/tendons from overuse/repetitive heavy lifting long-term. Talk to anyone who has been lifting heavy let alone training for years eventually there will be some degree of wear and tear especially on the joints/tendons. Many men struggling with what they think is tendonitis end up having tendinosis which is degeneration of the tendons. Regarding tendonitis in most cases when one has been strength training for a long time (years) most in fact develop tendinosis as opposed to tendinitis (which they think they have) and when one develops tendinosis the tendons are much more prone to a tear as tendinosis is a degeneration of the tendons collagen from chronic overuse. Aging will also have a big impact on tendon/joint health. As we age one needs to train smarter as you will notice it is very common for most who have been weight training for years to end up with damage to the joints/ligaments/tendons from the repetitive wear/tear on the body. [B]Important points to keep in mind: [I]* worn out/degenerative cartilage never grows back [/I][/B] [I][B]* individual tendon architecture is exquisitely tuned for optimal function, and scar-like healing generally fails to return to its pre-injury structure[/B][/I] [/QUOTE]
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Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
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Deca (nandrolone) for joint pain
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