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Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
Deca (nandrolone) added to trt and wow!!
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<blockquote data-quote="DrFeelgood" data-source="post: 165415" data-attributes="member: 39400"><p>Good stuff, madman thank you. I have trouble finding many downsides of nandrolone at therapeutic dosages. Many of the HRT doses are arguably not therapeutic - granted we all have symptoms of varying degrees, so that is expected. Yes, it is suppressive but many of us look to TRT as a long term plan. Yes, it will impact HDL but this is dose/person specific as much as diet and genetics.</p><p></p><p>The "study" that found nandrolone to be 11x more damaging to blood vessels?! I don't even see comparative dosages in that study.. were the doses equal to Test C/E/P? Please comment if someone has the doses or a respectable link to that study. What we do know is that nandrolone was not typically prescribed at the dosages we see for TRT - at least in a clinical setting and when it was more widely prescribed. </p><p></p><p>On the other hand, when researching long-term AAS use for performance or otherwise, one may find an interview with Louie Simmons of Westside Barbell who claims to have never cycled steroids and has been "on" since 1970. He specifically mentioned laurabolin as one of his preferred anabolics which is a slower-release ester (as in slower than deca). The interview was dated in 1998 but he's said as recently as 2016 that he's been on anabolics since 1970! </p><p></p><p>The Anabolic Doc, MD Thomas O'Connor, treats many (former and current) AAS users in the powerlifting/bodybuilding communities and he has started asking for study participants. Perhaps one day the rest of the medical community will regain their senses and begin studying some of these compounds.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DrFeelgood, post: 165415, member: 39400"] Good stuff, madman thank you. I have trouble finding many downsides of nandrolone at therapeutic dosages. Many of the HRT doses are arguably not therapeutic - granted we all have symptoms of varying degrees, so that is expected. Yes, it is suppressive but many of us look to TRT as a long term plan. Yes, it will impact HDL but this is dose/person specific as much as diet and genetics. The "study" that found nandrolone to be 11x more damaging to blood vessels?! I don't even see comparative dosages in that study.. were the doses equal to Test C/E/P? Please comment if someone has the doses or a respectable link to that study. What we do know is that nandrolone was not typically prescribed at the dosages we see for TRT - at least in a clinical setting and when it was more widely prescribed. On the other hand, when researching long-term AAS use for performance or otherwise, one may find an interview with Louie Simmons of Westside Barbell who claims to have never cycled steroids and has been "on" since 1970. He specifically mentioned laurabolin as one of his preferred anabolics which is a slower-release ester (as in slower than deca). The interview was dated in 1998 but he's said as recently as 2016 that he's been on anabolics since 1970! The Anabolic Doc, MD Thomas O'Connor, treats many (former and current) AAS users in the powerlifting/bodybuilding communities and he has started asking for study participants. Perhaps one day the rest of the medical community will regain their senses and begin studying some of these compounds. [/QUOTE]
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Clinical Use of Anabolics and Hormones
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Deca (nandrolone) added to trt and wow!!
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