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Daily Sub Q TRT injection ?
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<blockquote data-quote="madman" data-source="post: 198994" data-attributes="member: 13851"><p>Really?</p><p></p><p>Strong chance.....sure!</p><p></p><p>If anything he would have had to have blood work redone to rule out the possible chance of lab error in order for one to truly claim such.....<strong><u>it was the switch to subq. That and nothing else is the reason for the dramatic drop</u>.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Post #77 (my reply):</strong></p><p></p><p>As I stated previously going from 160 mg/week--->98 mg/week is a significant drop in T but even then hard to believe that one would experience such a drastic drop in levels 1500--->254!</p><p></p><p><u>Bad lab test......possible as it is known to happen</u>.</p><p></p><p><u>If anything you can retest TT to rule out but you already know where your FT/e2 truly sit as both were tested LC/MS-MS</u>.</p><p></p><p><u>Mind you as stated your feeling horrible</u>.</p><p></p><p><strong>*No wonder I’ve been feeling bad. Extreme insomnia, constipation & no libido. Probably because my test dropped down to where I was when I started.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>*I know crazy right</strong></p><p><strong>Can’t believe it would be the test</strong></p><p><strong>Don’t think the lab was wrong / no libido and insomnia and constipation confirm levels were low.</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p><u>Highly doubtful it was bad testosterone seeing as you stated that it is being prescribed by your doctor</u>.</p><p></p><p>Even if it was not pharma grade and instead compounded there would not be such a drastic drop in T.</p><p></p><p>Sure.....if it was UGL (highly underdosed/bunk)!</p><p></p><p><u>Poor injection technique/procedure causing leakage.....doubtful unless it was happening frequently as you are injecting daily</u>.</p><p></p><p>Would be rare that one would have excess leakage at the injection site frequently and in most cases anytime one experiences any leakage it is minimal.</p><p></p><p><strong>*<u>If you are concerned that injecting sub-q may be causing absorption issues then switch to IM</u>.</strong></p><p></p><p>Regarding the absorption/effectiveness of T should be no difference between sub-q vs IM mind you there are some men who do not feel well injecting sub-q let alone <u>claim they hit much lower numbers but I would be suspect in most cases unless they are</u> :</p><p></p><p><strong>*following the same protocol (dose T/injection frequency)</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>*staying consistent and waiting the full 4-6 weeks for blood levels to stabilize</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>*getting blood work done at 6 weeks</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>*using the same lab, same assays (most accurate), and testing at the true trough.</strong></p><p></p><p>Only when the above steps have been followed and labs from the sub-q and IM protocol can be fairly compared then one can truly state such!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Your TT/FT/e2 levels are at the bottom end of your current protocol as you can see from your blood work.</p><p></p><p>Top it off that you feel horrible.</p><p></p><p>If you feel more comfortable injecting IM then make the switch and decide whether you want to stick with dailies or jump into 120 mg/week at 60mg twice weekly (every 3.5 days).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Post #79 (Cataceous):</strong></p><p></p><p>It's easy enough to check your injection sites a few times to rule out leakage. Just leave them untouched for a few minutes and then shine a flashlight so the light reflects off of your skin. It's easy to see if you've got an oil slick there. <u>At these tiny doses a mere 0.05 mL of loss each time would account for your low total testosterone</u>.</p><p></p><p><u>Don't rule out the lab either until you have a retest</u>. It's possible to get side effects from any significant dose reduction, even when serum testosterone stays in a healthy normal range. It takes time to adapt.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="madman, post: 198994, member: 13851"] Really? Strong chance.....sure! If anything he would have had to have blood work redone to rule out the possible chance of lab error in order for one to truly claim such.....[B][U]it was the switch to subq. That and nothing else is the reason for the dramatic drop[/U]. Post #77 (my reply):[/B] As I stated previously going from 160 mg/week--->98 mg/week is a significant drop in T but even then hard to believe that one would experience such a drastic drop in levels 1500--->254! [U]Bad lab test......possible as it is known to happen[/U]. [U]If anything you can retest TT to rule out but you already know where your FT/e2 truly sit as both were tested LC/MS-MS[/U]. [U]Mind you as stated your feeling horrible[/U]. [B]*No wonder I’ve been feeling bad. Extreme insomnia, constipation & no libido. Probably because my test dropped down to where I was when I started. *I know crazy right Can’t believe it would be the test Don’t think the lab was wrong / no libido and insomnia and constipation confirm levels were low.[/B] [U]Highly doubtful it was bad testosterone seeing as you stated that it is being prescribed by your doctor[/U]. Even if it was not pharma grade and instead compounded there would not be such a drastic drop in T. Sure.....if it was UGL (highly underdosed/bunk)! [U]Poor injection technique/procedure causing leakage.....doubtful unless it was happening frequently as you are injecting daily[/U]. Would be rare that one would have excess leakage at the injection site frequently and in most cases anytime one experiences any leakage it is minimal. [B]*[U]If you are concerned that injecting sub-q may be causing absorption issues then switch to IM[/U].[/B] Regarding the absorption/effectiveness of T should be no difference between sub-q vs IM mind you there are some men who do not feel well injecting sub-q let alone [U]claim they hit much lower numbers but I would be suspect in most cases unless they are[/U] : [B]*following the same protocol (dose T/injection frequency) *staying consistent and waiting the full 4-6 weeks for blood levels to stabilize *getting blood work done at 6 weeks *using the same lab, same assays (most accurate), and testing at the true trough.[/B] Only when the above steps have been followed and labs from the sub-q and IM protocol can be fairly compared then one can truly state such! Your TT/FT/e2 levels are at the bottom end of your current protocol as you can see from your blood work. Top it off that you feel horrible. If you feel more comfortable injecting IM then make the switch and decide whether you want to stick with dailies or jump into 120 mg/week at 60mg twice weekly (every 3.5 days). [B]Post #79 (Cataceous):[/B] It's easy enough to check your injection sites a few times to rule out leakage. Just leave them untouched for a few minutes and then shine a flashlight so the light reflects off of your skin. It's easy to see if you've got an oil slick there. [U]At these tiny doses a mere 0.05 mL of loss each time would account for your low total testosterone[/U]. [U]Don't rule out the lab either until you have a retest[/U]. It's possible to get side effects from any significant dose reduction, even when serum testosterone stays in a healthy normal range. It takes time to adapt. [/QUOTE]
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