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Daily Sub Q TRT injection ?
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<blockquote data-quote="madman" data-source="post: 193777" data-attributes="member: 13851"><p><strong>Ok here are labs taken on 12-20-2020</strong></p><p><strong>Again these were at 160mg injected once a week (every 6 days) , cypionate, IM injection. No E2 / anastrazole taken.</strong></p><p></p><p>Even if blood work was done 2-3 days post-injection although TT/FT/e2 levels would be expected to be high on such a dose of 160 mg T the true peak would be 8-12 hrs post-injection so levels would have most likely been higher than what lab work shows.</p><p></p><p>Blood work should always be done at the true trough as we want to know where levels (lowest point) sit just before your next injection to make sure they are not too high which can cause numerous issues or in some cases not too low which would cause low-t symptoms.</p><p></p><p>The goal of trt is to replace physiological levels of testosterone through the use of exogenous testosterone in order to achieve a healthy TT/FT level which will result in the relief/improvement of low-t symptoms while at the same time minimizing/avoiding any potential side-effects (cosmetic/overall health) while keeping blood markers healthy long-term.</p><p></p><p>As you can clearly see on the previous protocol 160 mg (every 6 days) your TT/FT levels are very high and keep in mind your FT was testing using one of the most accurate assays Equilibrium Ultrafiltration (reference range 35-155 pg/mL).</p><p></p><p>Let alone e2 was not tested but seeing as your TT/FT levels are so high estradiol would be sure to follow!</p><p></p><p>Your RBCs/hemoglobin/hematocrit is right at the top end of the reference range due to your very high TT/FT level.</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Doc called and said to lower shots to 100mg weekly and gave me some anastrazole. The next week I started the 100mg and took 1/2 a 1mg pill of anastrazole. </strong></p><p></p><p>Although your doctor lowered your dose the grave mistake made was telling you to take an AI not only because we have absolutely no idea where your e2 sat since it was not tested but more importantly lowering your T dose drastically from 160--->100 mg every 6 days will in and of itself lower your estradiol.</p><p></p><p>Even then it would have been much more sensible to lower your dose and split into twice-weekly injections (every 3.5 days) instead of sticking with injecting once every 6 days.</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Today is Jan 9th so it’s been 3 weeks <u>(4 you stated)</u> since all that has taken place. This last week I started two days of daily Subq injections (14mg) per day for two days but feel terrible so the 3rd day injected the remaining 70mg in one shot. I’m all over the place lol. </strong></p><p></p><p>As I stated in the earlier post that it will take 4-6 weeks for blood levels to stabilize and than blood work needs to be done at the true trough to see where your TT/FT/e2 levels</p><p>let alone other blood markers sit.</p><p></p><p>You are 4 weeks in now and have not had labs done yet but you made a big mistake this past week by jumping on dailies let alone for only 2 days.</p><p></p><p>Again after blood levels stabilize you would need to give it another 2-3 months for the body to adapt as this is the critical time period when one should gauge how they truly feel overall on such protocol.</p><p></p><p>The decision is yours to make and you can continue with your current protocol of 100 mg every 6 days and get blood work done in a few weeks although I do not like the fact that you started the daily injections of 14 mg T for 2 days then on day 3 you injected 70 mg, T.</p><p></p><p>When starting or tweaking a protocol (dose T/injection frequency) it needs to be consistent then once blood levels stabilize (4-6 weeks) blood work needs to be done and should always be at the true trough.</p><p></p><p>I think you would be much better off injecting 100 mg/week split into twice-weekly injections (50 mg every 3.5 days) or if you are dead set on jumping into dailies then start off on 14 mg T and get blood work done in 6 weeks.</p><p></p><p>Do what you feel is best for you but I would scrap your current protocol 100 mg T injected every 6 days.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="madman, post: 193777, member: 13851"] [B]Ok here are labs taken on 12-20-2020 Again these were at 160mg injected once a week (every 6 days) , cypionate, IM injection. No E2 / anastrazole taken.[/B] Even if blood work was done 2-3 days post-injection although TT/FT/e2 levels would be expected to be high on such a dose of 160 mg T the true peak would be 8-12 hrs post-injection so levels would have most likely been higher than what lab work shows. Blood work should always be done at the true trough as we want to know where levels (lowest point) sit just before your next injection to make sure they are not too high which can cause numerous issues or in some cases not too low which would cause low-t symptoms. The goal of trt is to replace physiological levels of testosterone through the use of exogenous testosterone in order to achieve a healthy TT/FT level which will result in the relief/improvement of low-t symptoms while at the same time minimizing/avoiding any potential side-effects (cosmetic/overall health) while keeping blood markers healthy long-term. As you can clearly see on the previous protocol 160 mg (every 6 days) your TT/FT levels are very high and keep in mind your FT was testing using one of the most accurate assays Equilibrium Ultrafiltration (reference range 35-155 pg/mL). Let alone e2 was not tested but seeing as your TT/FT levels are so high estradiol would be sure to follow! Your RBCs/hemoglobin/hematocrit is right at the top end of the reference range due to your very high TT/FT level. [B]Doc called and said to lower shots to 100mg weekly and gave me some anastrazole. The next week I started the 100mg and took 1/2 a 1mg pill of anastrazole. [/B] Although your doctor lowered your dose the grave mistake made was telling you to take an AI not only because we have absolutely no idea where your e2 sat since it was not tested but more importantly lowering your T dose drastically from 160--->100 mg every 6 days will in and of itself lower your estradiol. Even then it would have been much more sensible to lower your dose and split into twice-weekly injections (every 3.5 days) instead of sticking with injecting once every 6 days. [B]Today is Jan 9th so it’s been 3 weeks [U](4 you stated)[/U] since all that has taken place. This last week I started two days of daily Subq injections (14mg) per day for two days but feel terrible so the 3rd day injected the remaining 70mg in one shot. I’m all over the place lol. [/B] As I stated in the earlier post that it will take 4-6 weeks for blood levels to stabilize and than blood work needs to be done at the true trough to see where your TT/FT/e2 levels let alone other blood markers sit. You are 4 weeks in now and have not had labs done yet but you made a big mistake this past week by jumping on dailies let alone for only 2 days. Again after blood levels stabilize you would need to give it another 2-3 months for the body to adapt as this is the critical time period when one should gauge how they truly feel overall on such protocol. The decision is yours to make and you can continue with your current protocol of 100 mg every 6 days and get blood work done in a few weeks although I do not like the fact that you started the daily injections of 14 mg T for 2 days then on day 3 you injected 70 mg, T. When starting or tweaking a protocol (dose T/injection frequency) it needs to be consistent then once blood levels stabilize (4-6 weeks) blood work needs to be done and should always be at the true trough. I think you would be much better off injecting 100 mg/week split into twice-weekly injections (50 mg every 3.5 days) or if you are dead set on jumping into dailies then start off on 14 mg T and get blood work done in 6 weeks. Do what you feel is best for you but I would scrap your current protocol 100 mg T injected every 6 days. [/QUOTE]
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