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<blockquote data-quote="Cataceous" data-source="post: 206835" data-attributes="member: 38109"><p>This is precisely why Natesto is interesting. You get to sample higher testosterone levels without breaking a functioning HPTA.</p><p></p><p>What is "optimized testosterone"? It seems as though lately guys are wanting to define this as the highest amount that doesn't cause overt side effects. I've argued that nature already decided on optimum levels—which are found in the averages for healthy young men. These are the levels that lead to the best reproductive success, which arguably correlates well with measures of overall success in life. Yes, average levels are a compromise. Maybe you sacrifice on some traits, like athleticism, but you gain on others, like the ability to maintain a stable relationship. "... men with higher basal T levels are less likely to marry and more likely to divorce..."<a href="https://collections.lib.utah.edu/dl_files/81/98/819870db92f97f8bf702a0b7a1f9e83879697056.pdf" target="_blank">1</a></p><p></p><p>In any case, the context for my anecdote is this precedence, which is also my treatment progression:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">hypogonadism < TRT < TRT+hCG < TRT+GnRH+...</p><p></p><p>In short, the better I reproduce a normal HPTA, the better I feel. This is in part why I've become a proponent of preserving the HPTA when possible. The theoretical issues also figure in this: For example, all those GnRH and LH receptors with as-yet unknown functions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cataceous, post: 206835, member: 38109"] This is precisely why Natesto is interesting. You get to sample higher testosterone levels without breaking a functioning HPTA. What is "optimized testosterone"? It seems as though lately guys are wanting to define this as the highest amount that doesn't cause overt side effects. I've argued that nature already decided on optimum levels—which are found in the averages for healthy young men. These are the levels that lead to the best reproductive success, which arguably correlates well with measures of overall success in life. Yes, average levels are a compromise. Maybe you sacrifice on some traits, like athleticism, but you gain on others, like the ability to maintain a stable relationship. "... men with higher basal T levels are less likely to marry and more likely to divorce..."[URL='https://collections.lib.utah.edu/dl_files/81/98/819870db92f97f8bf702a0b7a1f9e83879697056.pdf']1[/URL] In any case, the context for my anecdote is this precedence, which is also my treatment progression: [INDENT]hypogonadism < TRT < TRT+hCG < TRT+GnRH+...[/INDENT] In short, the better I reproduce a normal HPTA, the better I feel. This is in part why I've become a proponent of preserving the HPTA when possible. The theoretical issues also figure in this: For example, all those GnRH and LH receptors with as-yet unknown functions. [/QUOTE]
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