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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Testosterone Basics & Questions
Considering starting TRT although levels are not "clinically low" Feedback would be appreciated
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<blockquote data-quote="lancelot" data-source="post: 201225" data-attributes="member: 42599"><p>I hear so many stories of people that had initial great results, but then eventually didn't feel the same benefits and often felt worse. I have some theories on this . Perhaps, like many medications, the body quickly attenuates to the testosterone. Maybe it has to do with various receptors that downgrade combined with the issues from total hpta shutdown. From my experiences in the 80's using fairly mild anabolic compounds, some of the best gains were in the first 6 weeks. After that, I didn't see as much progress and more sides would emerge. Then after a brief layoff, I could resume and notice progress again.</p><p>I mentioned in an earlier post of a friend that does daily 12 mg doses of test propionate (actually found out he does that for 5 consecutive days in a row, then on 6 th day a 250 iu hcg shot and takes nothing on day 7.)This is continued for 4 weeks to 6 weeks with a 2 week break from testosterone. On those two weeks, hcg is dosed along with clomid and small amount of aromasin to combat excess hcg produced estradiol. According to him, he seems to continue to feel well, good libido, gym gains and has good labs without hematocrit getting into the abnormal range. Now he might feel a few percent worse during the 2 weeks off but the hcg and clomid prevent too far of a dropoff in test levels. Maybe this protocol gets around some of the receptor downgrade and doesn't totally shut off hpta?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lancelot, post: 201225, member: 42599"] I hear so many stories of people that had initial great results, but then eventually didn't feel the same benefits and often felt worse. I have some theories on this . Perhaps, like many medications, the body quickly attenuates to the testosterone. Maybe it has to do with various receptors that downgrade combined with the issues from total hpta shutdown. From my experiences in the 80's using fairly mild anabolic compounds, some of the best gains were in the first 6 weeks. After that, I didn't see as much progress and more sides would emerge. Then after a brief layoff, I could resume and notice progress again. I mentioned in an earlier post of a friend that does daily 12 mg doses of test propionate (actually found out he does that for 5 consecutive days in a row, then on 6 th day a 250 iu hcg shot and takes nothing on day 7.)This is continued for 4 weeks to 6 weeks with a 2 week break from testosterone. On those two weeks, hcg is dosed along with clomid and small amount of aromasin to combat excess hcg produced estradiol. According to him, he seems to continue to feel well, good libido, gym gains and has good labs without hematocrit getting into the abnormal range. Now he might feel a few percent worse during the 2 weeks off but the hcg and clomid prevent too far of a dropoff in test levels. Maybe this protocol gets around some of the receptor downgrade and doesn't totally shut off hpta? [/QUOTE]
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