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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Clomid for PCT, fertility or low T
Clomid vs. Testosterone results, all other things equal
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<blockquote data-quote="mjb" data-source="post: 101100" data-attributes="member: 12790"><p>All things equal, (if T, E, and SHBG levels are the same) is there any reason that a patient on Clomiphene vs. Testosterone should experience different results? Is there more to it than the levels and ratios that result from either protocol? And if so, any insight into what and why?</p><p></p><p>The reason I ask, is that I am considering a switch from clomiphene to testosterone. I have been on clomiphene, anastrazole, and DHEA for 2 years. My lab numbers improved and remain good, but, if I'm being honest, that's about all that's changed. I have detailed records of my body comp and workouts for the past 10 years and I am at the same place I was when I began the protocol. Energy and mood is about the same, sex drive down a bit. Could I expect a different result with testosterone? </p><p></p><p>Here is a running log of my labs since starting clomiphene, anastrazole, and DHEA, just to quantify things a bit. </p><p></p><p>Testosterone, Serum 305-->788-->886-->1105-->1084-->934</p><p>Free Testosterone(Direct) 5-->15.7-->16.3 -->19.4-->16.3-->20.6</p><p>DHEA-Sulfate 106-->291.9-->253-->293.6-->600.5</p><p></p><p>LH 4-->4.5-->4.4-->4.3-->8.6</p><p></p><p>Estradiol, Sensitive 16.5 -->29.2 -->20.9-->29.7-->29.4-->28.5</p><p></p><p>SHBG 42-->46.9-->44-->68-->63-->61.2</p><p></p><p>T:E ratio 18.5 -->26.8-->41.43-->37-->36.8-->32.77</p><p>Free T : Total T 1.6%-->2%-->1.8%-->1.76%-->1.5%-->2.2%</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mjb, post: 101100, member: 12790"] All things equal, (if T, E, and SHBG levels are the same) is there any reason that a patient on Clomiphene vs. Testosterone should experience different results? Is there more to it than the levels and ratios that result from either protocol? And if so, any insight into what and why? The reason I ask, is that I am considering a switch from clomiphene to testosterone. I have been on clomiphene, anastrazole, and DHEA for 2 years. My lab numbers improved and remain good, but, if I'm being honest, that's about all that's changed. I have detailed records of my body comp and workouts for the past 10 years and I am at the same place I was when I began the protocol. Energy and mood is about the same, sex drive down a bit. Could I expect a different result with testosterone? Here is a running log of my labs since starting clomiphene, anastrazole, and DHEA, just to quantify things a bit. Testosterone, Serum 305-->788-->886-->1105-->1084-->934 Free Testosterone(Direct) 5-->15.7-->16.3 -->19.4-->16.3-->20.6 DHEA-Sulfate 106-->291.9-->253-->293.6-->600.5 LH 4-->4.5-->4.4-->4.3-->8.6 Estradiol, Sensitive 16.5 -->29.2 -->20.9-->29.7-->29.4-->28.5 SHBG 42-->46.9-->44-->68-->63-->61.2 T:E ratio 18.5 -->26.8-->41.43-->37-->36.8-->32.77 Free T : Total T 1.6%-->2%-->1.8%-->1.76%-->1.5%-->2.2% [/QUOTE]
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