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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Clomid for PCT, fertility or low T
Clomid & Testosterone: Why they don't work together - By Mike Gaiso
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<blockquote data-quote="MikeXL" data-source="post: 63879" data-attributes="member: 4958"><p>I am not sure if you are still questioning whether Clomid will work with TRT, but it seems that you are. If so, reread my original post (I wrote the sticky). However, if you are still confused, I will offer this. </p><p></p><p>Think of it this way, the Hypothal will not release GNRH if it seems adequate amounts of EITHER estrogen or androgens. Yes, taking clomid during TRT will blind the Hypothal to estrogen. However, the hypothal will still see the androgens (testosterone and DHT). Think of adequate or greater levels of E as creating a STOP signal. Also, think of adequate or greater levels of androgens as creating a STOP signal</p><p></p><p>If a man on no therapy has Low T and adequate or high E, there is no Stop signal from androgens, but there is a stop signal from E. Thus, the hypothal does NOT secrete GNRH. </p><p></p><p>If you put that same on clomid, there still is no Stop signal from androgens, and the clomid blocks the stop signal that would come from E. Thus, the hypothal secretes GNRH. </p><p></p><p>If you put that same man on clomid and TRT, there is a Stop signal from the androgens. Although clomid still shields the E. It doesn't matter. The stop command has been launched.</p><p></p><p>I hope that helps</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MikeXL, post: 63879, member: 4958"] I am not sure if you are still questioning whether Clomid will work with TRT, but it seems that you are. If so, reread my original post (I wrote the sticky). However, if you are still confused, I will offer this. Think of it this way, the Hypothal will not release GNRH if it seems adequate amounts of EITHER estrogen or androgens. Yes, taking clomid during TRT will blind the Hypothal to estrogen. However, the hypothal will still see the androgens (testosterone and DHT). Think of adequate or greater levels of E as creating a STOP signal. Also, think of adequate or greater levels of androgens as creating a STOP signal If a man on no therapy has Low T and adequate or high E, there is no Stop signal from androgens, but there is a stop signal from E. Thus, the hypothal does NOT secrete GNRH. If you put that same on clomid, there still is no Stop signal from androgens, and the clomid blocks the stop signal that would come from E. Thus, the hypothal secretes GNRH. If you put that same man on clomid and TRT, there is a Stop signal from the androgens. Although clomid still shields the E. It doesn't matter. The stop command has been launched. I hope that helps [/QUOTE]
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