Clomid +Tamoxifen PCT - When to schedule bloodwork?

[Charbrisc]

Hey everyone. I am 32 years old and have been trying to come off of TRT. I was put on it in my early 20's erroneously. I was very underweight and overtrained, which is why I believe my T was so low. My doctor immediately put me on TRT and I didn't know anything so I started.

My wife and I decided we wanted to get pregnant two years ago so I started HCG and slowly came off of TRT. My last bloodwork showed Total T of 550 and free T in the low end of normal (E2 was also in the low end of normal).

So, I decided I want to try and come off of everything and have started Scally's PCT protocol. My question is when should I get bloodwork to make sure everything is going okay.

I have been on clomid (25mg ED) plus tamoxifen (20mg ED) for close to 6 weeks now. Should I stop both of these and then get bloodwork or get bloodwork before I come off of them? What all should I check? LH, FSH, Total T, Free T, E2, SHBG, prolactin? Anything else?

The reason I ask about bloodwork timing is because in one of Scally's protocols he suggested to stop both Clomind and Tamoxifen for about 2 weeks and then get tested. But, I wasn't sure if I should get bloodwork while on them (I believe I have seen Dr. Saya say this) to make sure things are working (they were while on HCG) and then taper off?

Lastly, I have noticed more energy and mental clarity with clomind + tamoxifen as compared to HCG mono, but my libido is way worse. What might be the reason for these differences?

Thanks so much!

 

[Vince]

Here's a good thread you may like to read.
Semen analysis results after adding FSH to TRT and hCG
https://www.excelmale.com/forum/sho...lysis-results-after-adding-FSH-to-TRT-and-hCG

 

[Charbrisc]

Here's a good thread you may like to read.
Semen analysis results after adding FSH to TRT and hCG
https://www.excelmale.com/forum/sho...lysis-results-after-adding-FSH-to-TRT-and-hCG

Thanks, but I already got my wife pregnant so I am no longer worried about that. I just want to get off of everything if I can.

My question has to do with timing of blood work and why my energy is higher, but libido lower on Clomid vs. HCG mono.

 

[Dr Justin Saya MD]

Would check levels while still on...then check levels after off for 6-8 weeks to compare/contrast.

The subjective difference you mention between HCG/clomid could be due to many variables, the most likely being: different hormone levels (T/E) and also the E receptor interactions of clomid (mixed agonist/antagonist).

 

[Charbrisc]

Would check levels while still on...then check levels after off for 6-8 weeks to compare/contrast.

The subjective difference you mention between HCG/clomid could be due to many variables, the most likely being: different hormone levels (T/E) and also the E receptor interactions of clomid (mixed agonist/antagonist).

Thanks so much, Dr. Saya! Are there any other tests you would recommend in addition to the ones I listed?

Also, if things look okay, would you recommend dropping Clomid down completely or slowly decrease? If the latter, I assume I would go to 12.5mg daily and then to EOD? Over what time period?

Sorry for all the questions I appreciate your help!