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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Clomid for PCT, fertility or low T
Clomid Experiment - Is Less Sometimes More?
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<blockquote data-quote="Varner" data-source="post: 72607" data-attributes="member: 13722"><p>I have posted on here before, but here's the basics: </p><p></p><p>* Low T last January</p><p>* Clomid prescribed at 50mg/day last February</p><p>* After a little over a month at 50mg/day: unimpressive Total T (went from 300s to low 500s); unimpressive LH numbers (went from 2.5 to 3.5). </p><p>* Dropped down to 25mg/day for a month while I was at the tail end of a 3-month diet. Total T dropped to 420, LH went up to 4.7.</p><p>* Went back up to 50mg/day while eating normally again. Total T went back up to 550, LH went to 6.0, free T at 137pg/ml. </p><p></p><p>Given the weak LH response to such high-dose Clomid, I have speculated that I've got a thyroid issue (my TSH last February was high at 4.7, supporting this hypothesis). But....my uro has no interest in thyroid stuff, all the endos here require referrals ----- my uro "referred" me to a doctor who, it turns out, has retired. So I need to go BACK to my uro or a GP with bloods and then seek a referral again.</p><p></p><p>I've been at 50mg/day again for like 8 months now. Subjectively, just feel "meh." So I'm going to go back down to 25mg/day. I'd like anyone's thoughts. This time, I will not be dieting as I experiment with the lower dose. I know caloric deficits can absolutely wreck testosterone levels, so I'm going to see if maybe the 420 reading last year was a result of the diet rather than the dosage. </p><p></p><p>Anyone have any idea of how long after beginning this before I can test bloods to check efficacy? I was thinking of doing it in about 6 weeks.</p><p></p><p>Any other thoughts? Dr. Saya wrote last year that less MIGHT BE more and then speculated as to why that might be - zuco buildup or a bell-curve response to SERMs, etc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Varner, post: 72607, member: 13722"] I have posted on here before, but here's the basics: * Low T last January * Clomid prescribed at 50mg/day last February * After a little over a month at 50mg/day: unimpressive Total T (went from 300s to low 500s); unimpressive LH numbers (went from 2.5 to 3.5). * Dropped down to 25mg/day for a month while I was at the tail end of a 3-month diet. Total T dropped to 420, LH went up to 4.7. * Went back up to 50mg/day while eating normally again. Total T went back up to 550, LH went to 6.0, free T at 137pg/ml. Given the weak LH response to such high-dose Clomid, I have speculated that I've got a thyroid issue (my TSH last February was high at 4.7, supporting this hypothesis). But....my uro has no interest in thyroid stuff, all the endos here require referrals ----- my uro "referred" me to a doctor who, it turns out, has retired. So I need to go BACK to my uro or a GP with bloods and then seek a referral again. I've been at 50mg/day again for like 8 months now. Subjectively, just feel "meh." So I'm going to go back down to 25mg/day. I'd like anyone's thoughts. This time, I will not be dieting as I experiment with the lower dose. I know caloric deficits can absolutely wreck testosterone levels, so I'm going to see if maybe the 420 reading last year was a result of the diet rather than the dosage. Anyone have any idea of how long after beginning this before I can test bloods to check efficacy? I was thinking of doing it in about 6 weeks. Any other thoughts? Dr. Saya wrote last year that less MIGHT BE more and then speculated as to why that might be - zuco buildup or a bell-curve response to SERMs, etc. [/QUOTE]
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