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Can't figure out Estradiol extremes
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<blockquote data-quote="Jackie Treehorn" data-source="post: 33723" data-attributes="member: 12618"><p>Jesus...where do I start? First off, let's address the Adex that you're taking. You just decided to start taking it based on what? Did you have symptoms of high E2? You said that you felt good, and that everything was "perfect." Doesn't sound like you had any symptoms of high E2 to me. </p><p></p><p>If you were basing this decision on lab work, what lab work? Were all your E2 labs based on the sensitive assay? If not, all your lab work for E2 is pretty much worthless. You were basing a medical decision to take an extremely powerful AI drug based on invalid information, ignoring how you actually feel, and without any input from your doctor. Is that correct? </p><p> </p><p>Ok, so now you're taking a huge...and I mean huge dose of Adex, and you tank your E2...big surprise. Then you go on this on again, off again protocol based on more invalid "estrogen" labs. I'm going to go ahead and assume that you felt lousy every time you started eating 3mg of Adex a week...right? </p><p></p><p>You know what you need to do? Stop taking the Adex, and see how you feel. Then in a couple of weeks, get another set of labs, and use the sensitive E2 test for checking your estradiol level. If your sensitive E2 level is a little above 40, don't freak out. With your total Test level at 885, your TE ratio is just above 20...not bad at all. The bottom line factor in all of this is how do you feel? </p><p></p><p>If you actually do have symptoms of high E2 (sensitive nipples, etc), then take a very small dose of Adex...I'm talking .15mg BIW. I would do this only after consulting my doctor (one that knows what he's doing). I'm not sure if your doctor meets that requirement. </p><p></p><p>I'm not saying any of this to be a jerk or to put you down, but it's pretty obvious to me and many here on the forum that you really don't know what you're doing. Trust me, you're not the only one. We see guys on this forum every single day with outdated protocols, and borderline incompetent doctors managing their TRT. It's pretty frustrating, and we feel for you, but you really need to listen to what people are telling you here. </p><p></p><p>I can't stress enough the importance of having a doctor that knows what the heck he is doing with regard to TRT. If there was anyone that was in desperate need of a consult with Defy Medical, it's you. Please seek professional, competent medical help.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You can do them either way. SubQ or shallow IM is very easy to do, and pretty much painless. No need to pin yourself with a 1" needle in the quad or glute.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jackie Treehorn, post: 33723, member: 12618"] Jesus...where do I start? First off, let's address the Adex that you're taking. You just decided to start taking it based on what? Did you have symptoms of high E2? You said that you felt good, and that everything was "perfect." Doesn't sound like you had any symptoms of high E2 to me. If you were basing this decision on lab work, what lab work? Were all your E2 labs based on the sensitive assay? If not, all your lab work for E2 is pretty much worthless. You were basing a medical decision to take an extremely powerful AI drug based on invalid information, ignoring how you actually feel, and without any input from your doctor. Is that correct? Ok, so now you're taking a huge...and I mean huge dose of Adex, and you tank your E2...big surprise. Then you go on this on again, off again protocol based on more invalid "estrogen" labs. I'm going to go ahead and assume that you felt lousy every time you started eating 3mg of Adex a week...right? You know what you need to do? Stop taking the Adex, and see how you feel. Then in a couple of weeks, get another set of labs, and use the sensitive E2 test for checking your estradiol level. If your sensitive E2 level is a little above 40, don't freak out. With your total Test level at 885, your TE ratio is just above 20...not bad at all. The bottom line factor in all of this is how do you feel? If you actually do have symptoms of high E2 (sensitive nipples, etc), then take a very small dose of Adex...I'm talking .15mg BIW. I would do this only after consulting my doctor (one that knows what he's doing). I'm not sure if your doctor meets that requirement. I'm not saying any of this to be a jerk or to put you down, but it's pretty obvious to me and many here on the forum that you really don't know what you're doing. Trust me, you're not the only one. We see guys on this forum every single day with outdated protocols, and borderline incompetent doctors managing their TRT. It's pretty frustrating, and we feel for you, but you really need to listen to what people are telling you here. I can't stress enough the importance of having a doctor that knows what the heck he is doing with regard to TRT. If there was anyone that was in desperate need of a consult with Defy Medical, it's you. Please seek professional, competent medical help. You can do them either way. SubQ or shallow IM is very easy to do, and pretty much painless. No need to pin yourself with a 1" needle in the quad or glute. [/QUOTE]
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