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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Testosterone Side Effect Management
Can estrogen crash cause desensitization/knock out of the estrogen receptor - lets discuss!
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<blockquote data-quote="Vitamin_C" data-source="post: 85826" data-attributes="member: 12373"><p>//You need need to stop bringing up women's breast cancer forums unless you bring blood work with it. If these women E2 readings are <3 pg/ml we can talk.//</p><p></p><p>There are a few threads on breast cancer forum where women have posted their estrogen levels because there is a particular target number they need to be at, many are critically low for years and years, 1mg per day is no joke of a dose. </p><p></p><p>You see the Harvard study on Finasteride? There is a link between men with symptoms and anxiety/depression, postulating that when men have their first sexual side effects from Finasteride, the fear of normal body functionings returning could be perpetuating their symptoms. I recently read a study with a Finasteride group vs a Placebo group where the placebo group reported more sexual side effects than the Finasteride group off sugar pills, the mind is a powerful thing. </p><p></p><p>//Also, we know what finasteride and SP do to DHT.//</p><p></p><p>I've taken SP as part of a prostate blend, my latest DHT reading was 69 (30-85). Finasteride most definitely lowers DHT, SP's most likely lowers it at such a small rate its negligible. There were no long term sexual effects from SP after 18 months of mega dosing the herb in this study</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=23063633" target="_blank">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=23063633</a> </p><p></p><p>// but there's some mechanism that leads to silencing of genes when using inhibitors//</p><p></p><p>This is bro science, no such mechanism has ever been observed, this is unhealthy speculation on your part which is potentially exacerbating your symptoms. </p><p></p><p>What do you mean I didn't crash my E2 like you guys did? I mean I was as low as 5ng/dl-9ng/dl for 2 months before I rebounded back. Are you speculating you have to be less than 5 ng/dl? At zero? and for how long? What can you back this up with besides anecdotes?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vitamin_C, post: 85826, member: 12373"] //You need need to stop bringing up women's breast cancer forums unless you bring blood work with it. If these women E2 readings are <3 pg/ml we can talk.// There are a few threads on breast cancer forum where women have posted their estrogen levels because there is a particular target number they need to be at, many are critically low for years and years, 1mg per day is no joke of a dose. You see the Harvard study on Finasteride? There is a link between men with symptoms and anxiety/depression, postulating that when men have their first sexual side effects from Finasteride, the fear of normal body functionings returning could be perpetuating their symptoms. I recently read a study with a Finasteride group vs a Placebo group where the placebo group reported more sexual side effects than the Finasteride group off sugar pills, the mind is a powerful thing. //Also, we know what finasteride and SP do to DHT.// I've taken SP as part of a prostate blend, my latest DHT reading was 69 (30-85). Finasteride most definitely lowers DHT, SP's most likely lowers it at such a small rate its negligible. There were no long term sexual effects from SP after 18 months of mega dosing the herb in this study [URL]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=23063633[/URL] // but there's some mechanism that leads to silencing of genes when using inhibitors// This is bro science, no such mechanism has ever been observed, this is unhealthy speculation on your part which is potentially exacerbating your symptoms. What do you mean I didn't crash my E2 like you guys did? I mean I was as low as 5ng/dl-9ng/dl for 2 months before I rebounded back. Are you speculating you have to be less than 5 ng/dl? At zero? and for how long? What can you back this up with besides anecdotes? [/QUOTE]
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