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<blockquote data-quote="angry polak" data-source="post: 77196" data-attributes="member: 16144"><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>I got this comment on a different forum. I didn't know if anyone would be willing to weigh in over here. And for the sake of reducing redundancy, my reply is below:</strong></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #333333">Thank you so much for the reply. I'll try and give feedback in the order you commented. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #333333">-What about those numbers is concerning? I know ferritin can relate to iron retention, but I don't know much what the rest "says" (or how it may relate to ferritin and an underlying issue). The consultation I had from my blood draw suggested I simply donate blood if ferritin remained high on my follow-up test. I will note the week prior to testing I ran out of multivitamins. Since I was going on vacation and my new order had not arrived, I packed my wife's vitamins. They are grocery store basic and have 18mg iron. I took them every other day because I knew men don't typically need to supplement iron. I don't know if that could impact these panels at the rate being seen, but I wanted to mention it.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #333333">-I drink at least 1 gallon of water daily, often 1.5-2 gallons. I have a 1/2 gallon jug and fill it with water from home (reverse osmosis filtered) and then fill it again at work from the fountain. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #333333">-I tested on Monday and hadn't lifted since Friday. I did perform heavy deadlifts on Friday.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #333333">-Two months after I began working out (June 2014), I experienced an extreme and sudden headache while lifting. It would recur any time I tried lifting heavy. I went to the Dr. because my father had suffered an aneurysm a few years prior. Bloods were taken and an MRI was performed (I'm going to provide comparisons on the bloods below) and both came back clean. It was determined that I was suffering tension headaches. Likely triggered by improper breathing when lifting and spiking BP. I took around 6 weeks off. When I returned I focused on performing proper warm up and breathing and have never had an issue since. Other than that I've not been treated for anything relating to "head trauma".</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #333333">-I learned that about the estradiol test after I took the labs. I purchased the panel through Life Extension as a "complete wellness panel". When I retest I plan to purchase the "sensitive" test.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #333333">-I'd love to hear your thoughts on adrenals and how they could relate to my experience. I do consume caffeine. I don't typically suffer "brain fog" but I don't always feel well rested. I checked my body temp at waking this morning and it was 97.2. I did try in Jan-March to supplement with lugols iodine (5%) and didn't notice much perceived change or change in body temp so I stopped. I'll also add that I have had fibrous gyno since I was a teen (I'm 34 now). Part of why I supplemented with iodine was there's anecdotal evidence it can help with gyno/fibrocystic tissue.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #333333">My bloods from 2014 were not tailored to a hormone panel, but the following comparisons can be made (2014 left and 2017 right):</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #333333">-Ferritin: N/A vs 315</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #333333">-EOS: 3.1% vs 12%</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #333333">-A/G: 2.2 vs 2.3</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #333333">-Creatinine: 1.24 vs 1.21</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #333333">AST: 24 vs 50</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #333333">ALT: 23 vs 80</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #333333">TSH: 1.41 (same both times)</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #333333">T4 (free): 1.3 vs 1.42</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #333333">Changes I am making since receiving my results:</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #333333">-Reduce sugar intake (was averaging 125-150g for 365-385g total carbs)</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #333333">-Add "Inhibit P" supplement (P5P, Mucuna)</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #333333">-Add Sup3r DHEA @ .25ml (topical application of 25mg DHEA & 5mg Pregnenolone)</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #333333">-Add Garden of Life Probiotic</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #333333">I was planning to test again in 6 weeks. I was planning to run the sensitive estradiol test and drop PSA (cost savings).</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #333333">With the additional info I'm open to any feedback you may have. Other changes to make, other tests to add, anything really. The time is greatly appreciated!</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #333333"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #333333"></span><span style="color: #333333">One more potentially important note. I was eating slightly above maintenance (lean bulk) and wanted a nutrient partitioner/GDA. In an effort to save money I just bought some cinnamon bark from my local Walmart. About two weeks before testing I started taking 1 cap (500mg) with each meal. After about a week I would have dizzy spells upon standing. I thought it was the cinnamon dropping blood sugar TOO low so I discontinued use. Symptoms stopped. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #333333">After seeing my liver values (even with lifting in consideration), I'm wondering if it was coumarin content and not blood sugar imparting my symptoms.</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="angry polak, post: 77196, member: 16144"] [B] I got this comment on a different forum. I didn't know if anyone would be willing to weigh in over here. And for the sake of reducing redundancy, my reply is below:[/B] [SIZE=3][COLOR=#333333][FONT=ProximaNovaLight]Thank you so much for the reply. I'll try and give feedback in the order you commented. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=ProximaNovaLight]-What about those numbers is concerning? I know ferritin can relate to iron retention, but I don't know much what the rest "says" (or how it may relate to ferritin and an underlying issue). The consultation I had from my blood draw suggested I simply donate blood if ferritin remained high on my follow-up test. I will note the week prior to testing I ran out of multivitamins. Since I was going on vacation and my new order had not arrived, I packed my wife's vitamins. They are grocery store basic and have 18mg iron. I took them every other day because I knew men don't typically need to supplement iron. I don't know if that could impact these panels at the rate being seen, but I wanted to mention it.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=ProximaNovaLight]-I drink at least 1 gallon of water daily, often 1.5-2 gallons. I have a 1/2 gallon jug and fill it with water from home (reverse osmosis filtered) and then fill it again at work from the fountain. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=ProximaNovaLight]-I tested on Monday and hadn't lifted since Friday. I did perform heavy deadlifts on Friday.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=ProximaNovaLight]-Two months after I began working out (June 2014), I experienced an extreme and sudden headache while lifting. It would recur any time I tried lifting heavy. I went to the Dr. because my father had suffered an aneurysm a few years prior. Bloods were taken and an MRI was performed (I'm going to provide comparisons on the bloods below) and both came back clean. It was determined that I was suffering tension headaches. Likely triggered by improper breathing when lifting and spiking BP. I took around 6 weeks off. When I returned I focused on performing proper warm up and breathing and have never had an issue since. Other than that I've not been treated for anything relating to "head trauma".[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=ProximaNovaLight]-I learned that about the estradiol test after I took the labs. I purchased the panel through Life Extension as a "complete wellness panel". When I retest I plan to purchase the "sensitive" test.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=ProximaNovaLight]-I'd love to hear your thoughts on adrenals and how they could relate to my experience. I do consume caffeine. I don't typically suffer "brain fog" but I don't always feel well rested. I checked my body temp at waking this morning and it was 97.2. I did try in Jan-March to supplement with lugols iodine (5%) and didn't notice much perceived change or change in body temp so I stopped. I'll also add that I have had fibrous gyno since I was a teen (I'm 34 now). Part of why I supplemented with iodine was there's anecdotal evidence it can help with gyno/fibrocystic tissue.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=ProximaNovaLight]My bloods from 2014 were not tailored to a hormone panel, but the following comparisons can be made (2014 left and 2017 right):[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=ProximaNovaLight]-Ferritin: N/A vs 315[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=ProximaNovaLight]-EOS: 3.1% vs 12%[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=ProximaNovaLight]-A/G: 2.2 vs 2.3[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=ProximaNovaLight]-Creatinine: 1.24 vs 1.21[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=ProximaNovaLight]AST: 24 vs 50[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=ProximaNovaLight]ALT: 23 vs 80[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=ProximaNovaLight]TSH: 1.41 (same both times)[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=ProximaNovaLight]T4 (free): 1.3 vs 1.42[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=ProximaNovaLight]Changes I am making since receiving my results:[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=ProximaNovaLight]-Reduce sugar intake (was averaging 125-150g for 365-385g total carbs)[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=ProximaNovaLight]-Add "Inhibit P" supplement (P5P, Mucuna)[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=ProximaNovaLight]-Add Sup3r DHEA @ .25ml (topical application of 25mg DHEA & 5mg Pregnenolone)[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=ProximaNovaLight]-Add Garden of Life Probiotic[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=ProximaNovaLight]I was planning to test again in 6 weeks. I was planning to run the sensitive estradiol test and drop PSA (cost savings).[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=ProximaNovaLight]With the additional info I'm open to any feedback you may have. Other changes to make, other tests to add, anything really. The time is greatly appreciated! [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=ProximaNovaLight]One more potentially important note. I was eating slightly above maintenance (lean bulk) and wanted a nutrient partitioner/GDA. In an effort to save money I just bought some cinnamon bark from my local Walmart. About two weeks before testing I started taking 1 cap (500mg) with each meal. After about a week I would have dizzy spells upon standing. I thought it was the cinnamon dropping blood sugar TOO low so I discontinued use. Symptoms stopped. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=ProximaNovaLight]After seeing my liver values (even with lifting in consideration), I'm wondering if it was coumarin content and not blood sugar imparting my symptoms.[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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