Black cumin extract and ashwagandha extract for sleep.

[Vince]

Does anyone use Black cumin extract and ashwagandha extract for sleep.

I was reading some studies this morning and it looks like both may help to improve sleep.

 

[Nelson Vergel]

I found this :


Yes, there are clinical studies on the use of black cumin extract and ashwagandha extract for sleep.

- Black cumin extract: A randomized, double-blinded, placebo-controlled study found that daily supplementation with a proprietary thymoquinone-rich black cumin oil extract may increase sleep satisfaction by reducing stress[2]. Another study showed that supplementation with a standardized oil from black cumin may significantly improve sleep quality in people with sleep disorders[3].

- Ashwagandha extract: A randomized, parallel-group, stratified design, placebo-controlled study found that Ashwagandha root extract can improve sleep quality and can help in managing insomnia[1]. A systematic review and meta-analysis also found that Ashwagandha extract can improve sleep quality[4].

In addition, a proprietary black cumin oil extract (BCO-5) was found to modulate the stress-sleep-immunity axis safely, improving sleep quality and reducing stress[6]. A black cumin seed extract improved sleep efficiency and perceived stress in clinical studies[5].

Sources
[1] Clinical evaluation of the pharmacological impact of ashwagandha root extract on sleep in healthy volunteers and insomnia patients - PubMed Clinical evaluation of the pharmacological impact of ashwagandha root extract on sleep in healthy volunteers and insomnia patients: A double-blind, randomized, parallel-group, placebo-controlled study - PubMed
[2] Black cumin extract may help manage stress, boost sleep: RCT - nutraingredients-usa.com Black cumin extract may help manage stress, boost sleep: RCT
[3] Black cumin oil may boost sleep quality, help with stress: Human data Black cumin oil may boost sleep quality, help with stress: Human data
[4] Effect of Ashwagandha (Withania somnifera) extract on sleep: A systematic review and meta-analysis - PMC - NCBI Effect of Ashwagandha (Withania somnifera) extract on sleep: A systematic review and meta-analysis
[5] Improve Sleep Efficiency and Duration - Life Extension https://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2023/12/improve-sleep-efficiency
[6] A proprietary black cumin oil extract (Nigella sativa) (BlaQmax®) modulates stress-sleep-immunity axis safely: Randomized double-blind placebo-controlled study A proprietary black cumin oil extract (Nigella sativa) (BlaQmax®) modulates stress-sleep-immunity axis safely: Randomized double-blind placebo-controlled study

By Perplexity at https://www.perplexity.ai/search/11401f5c-32b7-430b-9f99-abb5f5bce535

 

[Vince]

I found this :


Yes, there are clinical studies on the use of black cumin extract and ashwagandha extract for sleep.

- Black cumin extract: A randomized, double-blinded, placebo-controlled study found that daily supplementation with a proprietary thymoquinone-rich black cumin oil extract may increase sleep satisfaction by reducing stress[2]. Another study showed that supplementation with a standardized oil from black cumin may significantly improve sleep quality in people with sleep disorders[3].

- Ashwagandha extract: A randomized, parallel-group, stratified design, placebo-controlled study found that Ashwagandha root extract can improve sleep quality and can help in managing insomnia[1]. A systematic review and meta-analysis also found that Ashwagandha extract can improve sleep quality[4].

In addition, a proprietary black cumin oil extract (BCO-5) was found to modulate the stress-sleep-immunity axis safely, improving sleep quality and reducing stress[6]. A black cumin seed extract improved sleep efficiency and perceived stress in clinical studies[5].

Sources
[1] Clinical evaluation of the pharmacological impact of ashwagandha root extract on sleep in healthy volunteers and insomnia patients - PubMed Clinical evaluation of the pharmacological impact of ashwagandha root extract on sleep in healthy volunteers and insomnia patients: A double-blind, randomized, parallel-group, placebo-controlled study - PubMed
[2] Black cumin extract may help manage stress, boost sleep: RCT - nutraingredients-usa.com Black cumin extract may help manage stress, boost sleep: RCT
[3] Black cumin oil may boost sleep quality, help with stress: Human data Black cumin oil may boost sleep quality, help with stress: Human data
[4] Effect of Ashwagandha (Withania somnifera) extract on sleep: A systematic review and meta-analysis - PMC - NCBI Effect of Ashwagandha (Withania somnifera) extract on sleep: A systematic review and meta-analysis
[5] Improve Sleep Efficiency and Duration - Life Extension https://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2023/12/improve-sleep-efficiency
[6] A proprietary black cumin oil extract (Nigella sativa) (BlaQmax®) modulates stress-sleep-immunity axis safely: Randomized double-blind placebo-controlled study A proprietary black cumin oil extract (Nigella sativa) (BlaQmax®) modulates stress-sleep-immunity axis safely: Randomized double-blind placebo-controlled study

By Perplexity at https://www.perplexity.ai/search/11401f5c-32b7-430b-9f99-abb5f5bce535

Nelson have you ever used one or both.

 

[Nelson Vergel]

No. I use chewable melatonin gummies. I will look into this.

 

[Fernando Almaguer]

Ashwaganda lowers coritsol, which needs to be low for rest and sleep. So it makes sense that it will work to me.

 

[Vince]

I order life extension serene sleep.

Ingredients​

BlaQmax® black cumin 200 mg (nigella) extract (seed) [std. to 5% thymoquinone] Shoden® ashwagandha extract 120 mg (root and leaf) [std. to 35% withanolide glycosides] Other ingredients: gelatin, glycerin, sunflower oil, purified water, beeswax, sunflower lecithin, carob color. Non-GMO BlaQmax® is a registered trademark of Akay USA LLC. Shoden® is a registered trademark of Arjuna Natural Pvt. Ltd.​

Take one (1) softgel 20 to 30 minutes before bedtime

 

[Mastodont]

There is some evidence that black seed oil is a DHT blocker.

Inhibitory effects of Nigella sativa seed oil on the testosterone-induced benign prostatic hyperplasia in rats - PMC

Benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) is the most prevalent disease of the prostate in elderly men. Since Nigella sativa has been reported to show various pharmacological effects, this study was conducted to examine the effect of N. sativa seed oil on ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[t_spacemonkey]

i used to take black seed oil (key is to find good quality, I go by rule that good oil will have a 'spicy/hot' taste), but I don't think it did a lot for sleep. ashwagandha also had no effect on me whatsoever, i tried the gaia herbs liquid pill version, which does seem to be a very good brand.
still having sleep issues here and there, and there really does not seem to be magic bullet other then lifestyle/stress/screens etc. what I found is that going of caffeine helped a lot, after couple weeks when withdrawal was over, initially it made it worse

 

[Vince]

There is some evidence that black seed oil is a DHT blocker.

Inhibitory effects of Nigella sativa seed oil on the testosterone-induced benign prostatic hyperplasia in rats - PMC

Benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) is the most prevalent disease of the prostate in elderly men. Since Nigella sativa has been reported to show various pharmacological effects, this study was conducted to examine the effect of N. sativa seed oil on ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

i used to take black seed oil (key is to find good quality, I go by rule that good oil will have a 'spicy/hot' taste), but I don't think it did a lot for sleep. ashwagandha also had no effect on me whatsoever, i tried the gaia herbs liquid pill version, which does seem to be a very good brand.
still having sleep issues here and there, and there really does not seem to be magic bullet other then lifestyle/stress/screens etc. what I found is that going of caffeine helped a lot, after couple weeks when withdrawal was over, initially it made it worse

I guess I'll find out if it blocks any DHT because my last labs I had My DHT checked. I'm going to give it a shot since I use my Fitbit watch to check my sleep score. I'll be able to see if it does make a difference or not.

 

[Belekas]

I've just finished 0.5L bottle of strong, good quallity Black Seed Oil for my gut issues, preparing for antibiotics round. And damn the taste is like rocket fuel lol Drink it down and it burns like high % alcohol

 

[Ebstein]

I guess I'll find out if it blocks any DHT because my last labs I had My DHT checked. I'm going to give it a shot since I use my Fitbit watch to check my sleep score. I'll be able to see if it does make a difference or not.

How is the Black Cumin work for you? Have you had your labs tested again? I was thinking of starting to take the black seed oil until I saw that it might lower DHT.

 

[Vince]

How is the Black Cumin work for you? Have you had your labs tested again? I was thinking of starting to take the black seed oil until I saw that it might lower DHT.

I'm having labs on April 15th. When I get them I will post them. Be honest with you I don't think they are really doing much for my sleep. But I wanted to continue to taking them so I could post if they affect my DHT.

Be honest with you, I don't think it's lowering my DHT because my workouts are going great and I feel great.
Also, my libido is through the roof.

 

[Vince]

As of today, I stop taking life extension serene sleep. I don't feel that it helps me sleep.

 

[Phil Goodman]

As of today, I stop taking life extension serene sleep. I don't feel that it helps me sleep.

Did you get your labs done on the 15th, and if so did you see any meaningful difference in DHT levels?

Also, thanks for the experiment.

 

[Vince]

Did you get your labs done on the 15th, and if so did you see any meaningful difference in DHT levels?

Also, thanks for the experiment.

Yes, it's dropped from 60 ng/dL to 44 ng/dL