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<blockquote data-quote="seaexplorer" data-source="post: 63569" data-attributes="member: 15150"><p>Thank you everyone for the responses. I appreciate you taking the time to respond to a new person here.</p><p></p><p>Ive been reading a lot here. </p><p></p><p>Sorry, but just feel like ranting a bit ...</p><p>prior to finding this site, I've been calling around various clinics that have a specialization in TRT and that has been a very hopeless exercise. Yes, I did find some experts, but they were all extremely expensive, cash only, and no insurance. I also visited a couple clinics in my area, one having a well known Dr that seems amazing, but the $500 office visits are too expensive for me. And what's with these Drs turning into supplement salesmen? I hear the same pitch over and over that they only offer "pharmaceutical grade supplements that can only be provided by physicians", then they push supplements with really high markup. I know, and appreciate everyone needs to make a living, but anyone can find these so-called pharmaceutical grade supplements, same exact brands sold by the Drs, online and pay much less. When I talk to a prospective new Dr and they begin a supplement sales pitch, I walk out right there or hang up the phone. I'm not a rude person, but I've really have had it with this. It's actually kind of insulting getting a supplement sales pitch and being expected to pay double the price that can be found online.</p><p></p><p>I have an official diagnosis of low T, and have health insurance, and now I clearly see how the insurance dictates the care -- it's generic androgel or a monthly injection, and that's it -- as long as your total T is above 300, it's considered a success. it's clear that I'm going to have to "own my treatment" and go outside my insurance and this too is quite frustrating. </p><p></p><p>I've already accepted that I'm going to have to pay for this on my own and forget about my insurance, but hopefully I can find a place that will at least let me use my insurance for labs. I'm totally fine paying a fair fee for a Drs time. I would think that up to $250 per hour is reasonable, not $500 and not a need for monthly visits. I would also think that if non patented medications are prescribed, I should be charged a fair price, not some crazy $300 per month.</p><p></p><p>i will call some of the treatment centers mentioned here. I am actually feeling pretty optimistic now. I just want to end this decade of TRT disappointment and start new and get the benefits like so many here are enjoying. It's inspiring to read of others positive experiences and I'm determined to get to that point also.</p><p></p><p>thank you again to all who responded and welcomed me</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="seaexplorer, post: 63569, member: 15150"] Thank you everyone for the responses. I appreciate you taking the time to respond to a new person here. Ive been reading a lot here. Sorry, but just feel like ranting a bit ... prior to finding this site, I've been calling around various clinics that have a specialization in TRT and that has been a very hopeless exercise. Yes, I did find some experts, but they were all extremely expensive, cash only, and no insurance. I also visited a couple clinics in my area, one having a well known Dr that seems amazing, but the $500 office visits are too expensive for me. And what's with these Drs turning into supplement salesmen? I hear the same pitch over and over that they only offer "pharmaceutical grade supplements that can only be provided by physicians", then they push supplements with really high markup. I know, and appreciate everyone needs to make a living, but anyone can find these so-called pharmaceutical grade supplements, same exact brands sold by the Drs, online and pay much less. When I talk to a prospective new Dr and they begin a supplement sales pitch, I walk out right there or hang up the phone. I'm not a rude person, but I've really have had it with this. It's actually kind of insulting getting a supplement sales pitch and being expected to pay double the price that can be found online. I have an official diagnosis of low T, and have health insurance, and now I clearly see how the insurance dictates the care -- it's generic androgel or a monthly injection, and that's it -- as long as your total T is above 300, it's considered a success. it's clear that I'm going to have to "own my treatment" and go outside my insurance and this too is quite frustrating. I've already accepted that I'm going to have to pay for this on my own and forget about my insurance, but hopefully I can find a place that will at least let me use my insurance for labs. I'm totally fine paying a fair fee for a Drs time. I would think that up to $250 per hour is reasonable, not $500 and not a need for monthly visits. I would also think that if non patented medications are prescribed, I should be charged a fair price, not some crazy $300 per month. i will call some of the treatment centers mentioned here. I am actually feeling pretty optimistic now. I just want to end this decade of TRT disappointment and start new and get the benefits like so many here are enjoying. It's inspiring to read of others positive experiences and I'm determined to get to that point also. thank you again to all who responded and welcomed me [/QUOTE]
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