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Article: PCT post Testosterone Therapy
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<blockquote data-quote="Vettester Chris" data-source="post: 4702" data-attributes="member: 696"><p>Jeff, good post, as I've seen this subject broached many times ... Here's the thing, you were probably put on TRT due to obviously not having the ability to produce endogenously. By what you have described with the testicular atrophy and personal experience with HCG, it's probably a good assumption that your initial diagnosis was secondary hypogonadism (?). Not sure if your condition was derived from medications/AAS, or pathology, etc., but my point on this is that you have been on exogenous medication for 14 months. Even if your HPTA was perfectly healthy prior to starting Nebido, it would be quite the task to get your HPTA in a functional mode to sustain a normal production of GnRH->LH/FSH thereafter a PCT protocol. Of course anything is possible, but I have not seen or heard of too many success stories from others in similar situations. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Jeff, this isn't necessarily directed at you, as it is for EVERYONE looking at HRT ... Once you start, it's a lifetime commitment and should be viewed as such. The novelty of it fades in the distance pretty quick when you start seeing it's just another year of having to stay on top of the medications, labs, and other variables thereof. My personal take is, if the pituitary and testicles 'can' work in alliance to produce a healthy amount of testosterone today, then HRT is not needed tomorrow. In essence, there's no going back ...</p><p></p><p></p><p>Lastly, to address your concerns ... What you are experiencing could be a litany of other variables. While testosterone (serum, free & bio) is a KEY component with our wellness program, it truly is only one component in a multitude of many that could be factoring in the symptoms you are experiencing. I.e., you could be dealing with a thyroid condition, E2 issues, iron or cortisol related, metabolic condition, etc ... You mentioned "no AI" in your treatment, so that could be a deal breaker alone! If you can post labs that would be quite beneficial on our end to see the bigger picture. If you're unsure of what labs to get, let us know.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vettester Chris, post: 4702, member: 696"] Jeff, good post, as I've seen this subject broached many times ... Here's the thing, you were probably put on TRT due to obviously not having the ability to produce endogenously. By what you have described with the testicular atrophy and personal experience with HCG, it's probably a good assumption that your initial diagnosis was secondary hypogonadism (?). Not sure if your condition was derived from medications/AAS, or pathology, etc., but my point on this is that you have been on exogenous medication for 14 months. Even if your HPTA was perfectly healthy prior to starting Nebido, it would be quite the task to get your HPTA in a functional mode to sustain a normal production of GnRH->LH/FSH thereafter a PCT protocol. Of course anything is possible, but I have not seen or heard of too many success stories from others in similar situations. Jeff, this isn't necessarily directed at you, as it is for EVERYONE looking at HRT ... Once you start, it's a lifetime commitment and should be viewed as such. The novelty of it fades in the distance pretty quick when you start seeing it's just another year of having to stay on top of the medications, labs, and other variables thereof. My personal take is, if the pituitary and testicles 'can' work in alliance to produce a healthy amount of testosterone today, then HRT is not needed tomorrow. In essence, there's no going back ... Lastly, to address your concerns ... What you are experiencing could be a litany of other variables. While testosterone (serum, free & bio) is a KEY component with our wellness program, it truly is only one component in a multitude of many that could be factoring in the symptoms you are experiencing. I.e., you could be dealing with a thyroid condition, E2 issues, iron or cortisol related, metabolic condition, etc ... You mentioned "no AI" in your treatment, so that could be a deal breaker alone! If you can post labs that would be quite beneficial on our end to see the bigger picture. If you're unsure of what labs to get, let us know. [/QUOTE]
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