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Anyone feels better on less frequent injections? for ex.: e7d vs e3.5d
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<blockquote data-quote="madman" data-source="post: 199806" data-attributes="member: 13851"><p>my reply from a previous thread:<a href="https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/short-vs-long-esters.23282/" target="_blank">Short vs long esters</a></p><p></p><p></p><p>As I have stated numerous times the first 6 weeks mean nothing when looking at the bigger picture.</p><p></p><p>Hormones will be in FLUX during the weeks leading up until blood levels STABILIZE (4-6 weeks when using enanthate/cypionate esters) during this transition the body is trying to ADJUST and even then once blood levels have stabilized it will take another 2-3 months for the body to fully adapt and this is the CRITICAL TIME PERIOD when one should gauge how they truly feel overall regarding relief/improvement of low-t symptoms.</p><p></p><p>The first 6 let alone 8 weeks are misleading and where many make the mistake of trying to gauge how they feel and whether the protocol was a success or failure!</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, most expect to feel great overall 6 weeks in let alone experience the overall beneficial effects of healthy T levels and if such is not the case they go bat shit and start tweaking a f**king protocol (dose T/injection frequency), ester, IM to sub-q or vice versa.....you get the point a complete f**king mess, to say the least.</p><p></p><p>Top it all off that many have the herd mentality.....more T is better or the sob story.....I need to run absurdly high TT/FT levels to feel good and start jacking up their T-dose 6 weeks in because they do not feel well.</p><p></p><p>Looking over all your threads on here it is highly doubtful you have ever given your protocol a fighting chance.</p><p></p><p>On your current protocol, you are running an absurdly high trough TT which would have your trough FT through the roof, and if anything you need to look into lowering your T-dose let alone now you will have to wait another 4-6 weeks for blood levels to stabilize than 2-3 months to gauge how you truly feel overall.</p><p></p><p>If you are not willing to put in the time then you are going to be chasing your tail endlessly getting caught up on that never-ending merry-go-round.</p><p></p><p>Bad enough that many of the misinformed are so caught up in chasing/finding that so-called optimal.</p><p></p><p>See it all the time here on the forum.</p><p></p><p>People ranting/raving about a protocol and how they feel yet in many cases:</p><p></p><p><em><strong>*blood work is done too early (2-3 weeks of starting a protocol)</strong></em></p><p><em><strong></strong></em></p><p><em><strong>*switching their protocols (dose T/injection frequency), esters, IM to sub-q or vice versa left and right every 6 weeks if they do not feel good/great.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong></strong></em></p><p><em><strong>*blood work is done using inaccurate assays especially when it comes to <u>free</u> <u>testosterone</u> let alone e2.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong></strong></em></p><p><em><strong>*neanderthal mindset that more T is better</strong></em></p><p><em><strong></strong></em></p><p><em><strong>*high T = raging libido/titanium erections</strong></em></p><p></p><p><strong><em>*high T = OPTIMAL as in that fairytale everyone is chasing.....you know the one with raging libido/titanium erections 24/7, unlimited amounts of energy, stellar mood (Mr. Rogers neighborhood), packing on muscle like the hulk with the recovery abilities of wolverine.....LMFAO.</em></strong></p><p></p><p>Last but not least and the one that truly puts the icing on the cake</p><p></p><p><strong>*Lack the understanding of how exogenous T works.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Hormones will be in FLUX during the weeks leading up until blood levels STABILIZE (4-6 weeks when using enanthate/cypionate esters) during this transition the body is trying to ADJUST and even then once blood levels have stabilized it will take another 2-3 months for the body to fully adapt and this is the CRITICAL TIME PERIOD when one should gauge how they truly feel overall regarding relief/improvement of low-t symptoms.</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="madman, post: 199806, member: 13851"] my reply from a previous thread:[URL="https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/short-vs-long-esters.23282/"]Short vs long esters[/URL] As I have stated numerous times the first 6 weeks mean nothing when looking at the bigger picture. Hormones will be in FLUX during the weeks leading up until blood levels STABILIZE (4-6 weeks when using enanthate/cypionate esters) during this transition the body is trying to ADJUST and even then once blood levels have stabilized it will take another 2-3 months for the body to fully adapt and this is the CRITICAL TIME PERIOD when one should gauge how they truly feel overall regarding relief/improvement of low-t symptoms. The first 6 let alone 8 weeks are misleading and where many make the mistake of trying to gauge how they feel and whether the protocol was a success or failure! Unfortunately, most expect to feel great overall 6 weeks in let alone experience the overall beneficial effects of healthy T levels and if such is not the case they go bat shit and start tweaking a f**king protocol (dose T/injection frequency), ester, IM to sub-q or vice versa.....you get the point a complete f**king mess, to say the least. Top it all off that many have the herd mentality.....more T is better or the sob story.....I need to run absurdly high TT/FT levels to feel good and start jacking up their T-dose 6 weeks in because they do not feel well. Looking over all your threads on here it is highly doubtful you have ever given your protocol a fighting chance. On your current protocol, you are running an absurdly high trough TT which would have your trough FT through the roof, and if anything you need to look into lowering your T-dose let alone now you will have to wait another 4-6 weeks for blood levels to stabilize than 2-3 months to gauge how you truly feel overall. If you are not willing to put in the time then you are going to be chasing your tail endlessly getting caught up on that never-ending merry-go-round. Bad enough that many of the misinformed are so caught up in chasing/finding that so-called optimal. See it all the time here on the forum. People ranting/raving about a protocol and how they feel yet in many cases: [I][B]*blood work is done too early (2-3 weeks of starting a protocol) *switching their protocols (dose T/injection frequency), esters, IM to sub-q or vice versa left and right every 6 weeks if they do not feel good/great. *blood work is done using inaccurate assays especially when it comes to [U]free[/U] [U]testosterone[/U] let alone e2. *neanderthal mindset that more T is better *high T = raging libido/titanium erections[/B][/I] [B][I]*high T = OPTIMAL as in that fairytale everyone is chasing.....you know the one with raging libido/titanium erections 24/7, unlimited amounts of energy, stellar mood (Mr. Rogers neighborhood), packing on muscle like the hulk with the recovery abilities of wolverine.....LMFAO.[/I][/B] Last but not least and the one that truly puts the icing on the cake [B]*Lack the understanding of how exogenous T works. Hormones will be in FLUX during the weeks leading up until blood levels STABILIZE (4-6 weeks when using enanthate/cypionate esters) during this transition the body is trying to ADJUST and even then once blood levels have stabilized it will take another 2-3 months for the body to fully adapt and this is the CRITICAL TIME PERIOD when one should gauge how they truly feel overall regarding relief/improvement of low-t symptoms.[/B] [/QUOTE]
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